I have often said that if the company starts jacking with flow times to much, or withholds people for relatively minor infractions, it will cost them far more than the pilot group.

Even after the PP's are out, the need for pilots industry wide will still be there and Envoy cant afford to lose candidates, something that will become harder and harder the longer flow gets and the longer they keep pay/reserve/qol stuff below standard.

My point being, I tend to agree, keep clean, dont do anything super negligent or get caught in Disneyland while on a sick call and you should be fine.

PSA's flow is like 18 years and they don't have any trouble selling people on it. The airline is obscenely overstaffed and still hiring.

It's a great way to control staffing costs.

The Disneyland-story is now an "official" "don't do stupid sh*t" example. It was told to us during indoc, and base indoc too as an example on how sick calls get you in trouble.

I understand not non reving while on a sick call, but why do we in America accept com0any restrictions on what we use our sick calls for?

As I see it, that is time,pay, benefit that I have earned base off the companies benefit policy therefore should be able to use it as I see fit. If I have a kid that is sick and I need to take off to care for them, or I am just not feeling 100% focused because of life events, or feeling overworked I should be able to take the time off and do as I please.

The company won't allow us to cash out our sick bank when we flow or leave, or even roll it over to a fellow employee in need. We can't even use our sick bank for a FMLA for the birth of a child. If one doesn't usually get sick throughout the year, one should be able to use it as another form of personal vacation day.

just my .02 cents.

When you DTS vacation you can use your sick bank yo cover the unpaid portion

Yeah guys, come on. If the things you're all touting actually come to fruition and word gets out that your chances of flow are same as the guaranteed interviews at other places that pay way better, people will leave in numbers and hiring will slow to a trickle.

Trust me, they don't want us sitting on property longer than we have to, moving up the payscale when a new guy can do your job just as well. They might not always do what makes good sense, but they definitely know how big of a deal flow is for them too. They just don't ever want to admit what a big crutch it is to filling classes.

They will F themselves over in single day if they botch it up.

Among many other things you can cover with your sick bank.

I doubt it.

People always think "that won't be me."

Proof: have you seen how many people drive without seatbelts?


Even the guaranteed interview programs get people lined up at the door. Look at Commutair.

An active performance advisory seems to be related to an event that requires official focus training, which is PRIA reportable, as it involves training records. There is also 'unofficial' focus training, which is non PRIA. Some of this is under the General section in the contract. The PRIA letter is kept in your file for 5 years due to regulatory PRIA requirements, but by contract cannot be used to discipline a pilot after 2 years. There is also an attendance control policy that is referenced in letter 15-01 that can stop flow. I cannot find any other reference in the contract to this policy. I think that they track attendance year by year, but maybe someone else can clear this one up...

If anyone from the union is on here we are getting close to non protected flows, so might be a good time to do an official email to clear this up before someone makes a mistake and misses out on their flow date...