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Originally Posted by HalyardJammer (Post 2907691)

Neider told my upgrade group that he is about 90% certain that we will get the compass planes, but does not think we will get the base. He believes that skywest will get LAX. He also stated that he only anticipates growing the airline by about 150 next year. So current level plus 150.

I just don't think we're doing the hiring needed to open a base. Class 3 weeks ago had 17 people in it.

This is consistent with what I heard from him early this summer. He didn't mention Skywest getting LAX but did say that getting the planes didn't necessarily mean getting the base.

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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader (Post 2907858)

It would make sense for AAG to shuffle the regional feed and give LAX to SkyWest. 20 more planes spread between DFW and ORD could improve the flight file.

If Envoy is on track to hire its fly goal for 2019, then I can see why they would be ok with a small class here and there. The last class was a normal size.

More planes and flights would hopefully help the flight file and QOL.

Getting LAX as a base would help recruiting and anyone that commutes from the west as well as benefiting some relative seniority as DFW and ORD based west coast pilots transferred out as well. But that would likely end up diluting the flight file again so probably no real improvement.

Neider has been telling that story for years.

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Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2908096)

Neider has been telling that story for years.

Well the contract is actually about to end now.

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Originally Posted by HalyardJammer (Post 2908244)

Well the contract is actually about to end now.

What is your source for the date?

Neider said next April. But the planes weren’t all delivered at the same time, so maybe, likely?, come off contract at the same rate of roughly two per month? Compass folks still think they are keeping them, but if they don’t have anything else to replace Delta flying, they couldn’t keep a contract going with only 20 planes if they wanted to. But if Compass does get more flying, likely it will be from Mesa, so they will be in trouble. Either way, I think there will be some consolidation over the next year. Delta for one has said they want to eliminate 50 seaters. I don’t know the specifics of their contract and scope, but that likely means less regional and more mainline with something like the A220, which they are already flying.

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Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2908256)

What is your source for the date?

Neider said next April.

Just repeating what was said in class.

Furthermore, that question wasn't really answered.

He was asked if they lose the contract, would we suddenly find ourselves with 20 planes?
He responded with they would need to be cleaned first.

So where do those planes sit in interim?
Responded with a non-answer.

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Originally Posted by HalyardJammer (Post 2908264)

He responded with they would need to be cleaned first.

I can confirm this.. Today I was enjoying one of the grain free coco-granola snacks (which are amazing btw) and afterward tossed it into the trash bag except I missed and spilled crumbs all over the floor :/

I know, *cool story bro*

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Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 2908347)

Did you grind them into the floor Rick James as portrayed on Chapelle’s show?

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Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2908256)

Compass folks still think they are keeping them, but if they don’t have anything else to replace Delta flying, they couldn’t keep a contract going with only 20 planes if they wanted to. But if Compass does get more flying, likely it will be from Mesa, so they will be in trouble. Either way, I think there will be some consolidation over the next year.

Rumors swirling that we may be in talks (or even already negotiated) early termination of the AA contract due to our future flying "opportunity" that has yet to reveal itself, but most people believe it's involving UAX flying.

Can confirm the rumor that AA is selling Envoy to Compass so Envoy pilots can have a west coast base and TSH can have something else to **** up.

As i know it's unfortunately true.