Juicy LAX rumor
 

Check out flight MQ6085 on Flightaware.

(no. not serious.).

Says operated by compass

No it doesn't

There's also a CP6085.

You guys planning a drag race or something?

I can’t remember the number, but I know there is at least one flight that regularly shows an MQ number but also shows an ASH number and is definitely flown by Mesa because I often commute on it. After it is actually flown, it only shows the Mesa flight. If you can find one that Envoy has actually flown, you might have something. All our regular flights are 3XXX or 4XXX. But when we pick up a flight that is dropped by someone else it should be a 93XX number.

Great info, I didn’t realize the 93xx was that. Thanks.

It amazes me the hardon that people have for taking the LAX flying back. It’s not a good thing for us as a group. Why do we want to do more work for bottom rate wages?

It may or may not be good for Envoy pilots as a group, but there are a number of people here, both pilots and FAs, who it would be better for them, as individuals.

And then there are the people who would benefit, as individuals, by all the people above them that go to another base as well.

Just pointing this out. I don’t want it to happen. It will be such a good recruiting tool for Envoy that they will be able to continue to fill classes with those extra bodies under our same miserable contract.

I've flown with 2 FO's who came here because they heard we were opening a LAX base. Even after explaining to them how airline rumors work they both still remained hopeful and positive about LAX reopening.

I guess they'll just have to settle for an 8 year flow and eventually getting LAX 737/320.

Well, I guess it depends on how you think it would affect recruiting. LAX base would probably bring the boys to the yard, even more so than today where hundreds of cadets are lining up every month to make worst-in-the-industry money. But if it didn’t? Flying Envoy can’t staff gives Envoy an incentive to up the ante. They’d probably just increase the bonus a little though.

We had a brief talk with Pedro at HQ today. He said a Hawaii base is on the table. Or Fresno. He'll let us know Friday.

He specifically did not say LAX. He did mention Alaska though.

Well if it is Hawaii we better sure as hell be the highest paid regional pilots

Well, technically we are a major (together with Republic and SkyWest), soooo.....

That's only reason LAX is a rumor here, because of the new rtp guys from out there. Not happening

And Envoy used to have a base there. And American has a large hub there. And Envoy has a large ground operation there. And Compass operates a sizable flight operation there with AAG aircraft that were originally scheduled to be Eagle's before we were put in timeout. And their contract ends sometime (although nobody seems to know when exactly.)

I subscribe to the "believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see" idea in this industry. And I agree with you that an LA base is not as imminent as it's been for the past 2-5 years of rumors. I think most of it is what people are hoping for, and not based in real facts. But, there is more there than just the RTP thing. I believe the rumor even predates that program.

Eagle used to have a BNA base. I’d love a Nashville base.

Eagle also used to have a San Juan, Puerto Rico base. SJU. Let’s bring that back. I’m going to officially start/revive that rumor.

Someone asked Pedro about SJU specifically today and he said “That’s never happening again.” For what that’s worth.

This is Envoy. Never let facts, logic or reality get in the way of a decision or rumor.

Instead of bits and pieces, why not just post all of what pedro said.

It's hard to post all of it through the accent.

LAX is happening. July announcement. Or I could just need to use the LAV again. I’m torn.

The moose howls at the squirrel under a full summer moon.

I’m surprised we don’t already have a Charlotte base. A lot of LGA trips now are down to CLT followed by 3 days of 5 legs in and out of CLT. I assume because Piedmont can’t staff it.

I don’t think it’s a staffing issue, probably just routes better served by 135/140s. PDT is adding a decent amount of new flying next month bringing DCA into the mix.

Envoy lax base august
 

Heard rumors from an American pilot LAX envoy base opening in August
Hard to believe lol!!!

That I read somewhere Envoy cannot have any bases west of the Rockies. Or is that just a myth.

Myth. We used to have LAX so not sure why we couldn't again, in theory.

Juicy LAX rumor
 

LAX is an Envoy base for both top side gates and bottom side ground service (someone correct me if I’m wrong). So technically LAX is already a base, just not for Envoy aircraft/flight crews.

I do believe Compass could’ve taken the DFW-Cali - DFW flights if asked. Hell even SKYWEST out of Dallas would gladly take that flying west. They selected Envoy. That is good news for Envoy.

A LAX aircraft & crew base for Envoy is a different story! It’s a different type of growth taking on 20 additional aircraft at new crew base (technically- Envoy now not Eagle). Does Envoy need growth right now?????????

Answer: No

we need growth in our bid packets. We’re taking on new planes but all they’re doing is moving flying out of the 145 bid packets and dropping crappy lost days in every trip

Envoy doesn’t want a Cali base and to have to deal with pilots exploiting the work rules and labor laws out there. It will only add to their headache. Compass has 50 ish flights a day out of LAX. The company will find a way to do it via fly through. They craftier than the family of a dead Nigerian prince who left his money to you and just needs your SSN, checking account/routing number, and mothers maiden name in order to make you rich.

Why are flights departing LAX going to other west coast cities like SD labeled as Envoy flights then?


https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...443Z/KLAX/KSAN

What does the NRTP say? Compass. FlightAware isn’t accurate.

But I did hear that a friends boyfriends housekeeper has a daughter that is a FA for Envoy, she says LAX will be open within a fortnight.

Look it up as an AAL flight and look at a flight that has already been flown. You will see CPZ. Also, Envoy revenue flights are 3XXX and 4XXX. CPZ uses 6XXX and ASH 5XXX for American flights. I have seen the same thing of flights listed as an ENY flight and ASH flight but were flown by ASH. Not sure why they do that.

But, even if it was ACTUALLY an ENY flight, ENY does through flying at other hubs as well. Such as CLT and DCA. Don’t hear of Envoy getting a base there.

Is that a twice a week thing or every two week thing?

I had a buddy who checked into the Ritz a little bit north of LAX near Santa Monica, he said that while they were checking in hotel staff was seen rolling up a banner that said “Welcome Envoy Flight Crews” and put it in a back room. I am pretty sure that means we are about to get some fly through at least with LAX overnights.

I heard we should get an update bifortnightly

The Ritz. Yeah. If you had said LaQuinta or Holiday Inn, it might have a little more cred.

Thank you, Simone.