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Let’s make something useful of that hashtag.

You're looking at it from the wrong perspective. This puts more pressure on Envoy management to raise pay.

I said it before and will say it again, the union screwed us with the last LOA. It was all about getting the PP's out and basically gave away the farm to do it.

That was the time to negotiate pay, but the leadership was looking out for its group first, the rest, good luck to ya.

Pretty sure I put my money up on every paycheck, last I checked anyway.

Good luck as this is quite possibly the most impotent union I have ever seen. The union should be recalled and Envoy pilots can easily be backed by APA. Demand nothing but industry leading pay. After all I am sure management gets paid extremely well.

Full pay to the last day. Remove ALPA.

Now is the time ALPA...now or never. I’ve been saying it for years, in today’s unheard of environment we should be shooting beyond anything we thought possible with pay because the second the industry tanks guess who Parker is coming to first for cuts?

Little ol’ American Envoyeagle.

PSA is the real American Eagle now.

I guess “play ball with the people who control your job” guy was right in the end. He’s probably upgrading on the A321 by now, too.

Alpa will not get anything, as with any slight improvements we have received, the company will come to alpa and say sign off on this. Alpa has not negotiated one thing for us, it all has been the company coming to alpa and saying, here we are going to give this to the pilots(sure alpa may have been able to tweak a few things). The company will wait and see if this hurts recruitment, then and only then will envoy see anything.

But let's be realistic, the company is doing a great job of hiring guys who have never flown a plane until 5 months ago, and haven't touched their helicopters in 12 years, and are also celebrating their 55th birthday this year.

We are also pretty strong on cadets as well. Have to give it to management, they could see the writing on the wall and made a brilliant play with RTP/Cadet programs. Essentially allowed them to act the way they have because people keep showing up to class. This isn't a knock to the RTP or cadets btw, just pointing out the facts. ALPA, along cant do anything.

If the company doesn't want to negotiate they won't, pretty simple. What ALPA screwed up on was the last LOA, this was the chance to get everything better for years to come, however they focused on moving their PP's out. Again, the PP's went through a lot so I am not throwing them under the bus, however we gave up our best opportunity in years for them to flow faster. What the union can and should do is show us what the normal standard is in regards to our operation, that way we all know what we "have" to do and what is "optional" in terms of getting the job done. Is calling for fuel a "mandatory" or "optional" duty of the flight crew? Safety is clearly an issue now, we need some guidance on what areas need to be "slowed" down in the name of safety. Have to be careful with these kinds of things.

Damn! That YES vote is looking pretty good for them.

I’ve heard this one before but I’m kind of confused by it. The increased flow through rate for the protected pilot group actually benefits every pilot junior to that group more than any protected pilot due to the compounding effect of a rate increase. Similarly, if they can increase the rate for the following group, it won’t be those pilots who benefit the most, it will be each pilot junior to that group...

Also, what did they give away? Anybody who was here in 2014 knows that grievance had no legs — so they gave what?

We were getting screwed with the company metering the flow because of poor wording in the unions part in the original PP flow negotiations. All the company did was give us back what we already had, so essentially the union did nothing.

Look. The leadership is supposed to set the tone. The onus is on them.
If they (union) tell me to go to DFW Terminal B tomorrow to do an informational picket, I'll be there. If they want a letter writing campaign, then I'll write. Cmon. It's absolutely the union leadership's responsibility to organize. That is their job! Whipsawing is absolutely rediculous when we are under one union umbrella. The lessons should have been learned, and contingencies set to prevent a repeat of such management shenanigans. ALPA overall needs to stop this silo mentality within its sub-group and act in unity. I already let our union know how I feel, but they should have been on top of this.

Exactly this. That LOA benefited everyone after the PP group far more. How about getting captain pay upon award... You guys enjoying that one? This protected pilot would have banked nearly 10 extra months of captain pay while bidding a nice FO line. If I flow a month sooner, so will you.

You know that LOA pay on award was to avoid a grievance/mediation about the DECs right? Do you also know that if they’d negotiated a proper contract in the first place the company wouldn’t have had to clear it up? It’s all union incompetence created. Time for some action or new blood.

I think you are confusing why things happened. The pay didn't have anything to do with PP flow rates. While we all moved up a little bit in flow, it did nothing to protect the rest of the pilot group, increase pay, increase qol etc. The only tangible effect was to move the PP's quicker, which I want to reiterate again, I am not ****ting on the PP's so please lets not get all worked up about it. The point is simply, that in MY opinion, we could have battled for more at that point.

I fully admit that I could be wrong about doing more than, I wasn't in the negotiations, however we seem to be losing a lot of battles around here and its getting old.

Meanwhile ... this list is with the old officers but you get the point..
https://www.unionfacts.com/employees/Air_Line_Pilots

Name Title Gross Salary Benefits & Other Compensation Total Compensation
TIMOTHY CANOLL PRESIDENT $439,630 $253,904 $693,534
BRUCE YORK SR ADVISOR & CHIEF NEG $509,304 $45,499 $554,803
JONATHAN COHEN GENERAL COUNSEL DIR LEGAL $488,619 $3,702 $492,321
LORI GARVER GENERAL MANAGER $477,399 $4,356 $481,755
WILLIAM ROBERTS ASST DIR REPRESENTATION $407,590 $20,872 $428,462
DAVID KRIEGER MANAGING DIR $415,497 $11,801 $427,298
BETTY GINSBURG DIRECTOR REPRESENTATION $416,349 $10,320 $426,669
JIM JOHNSON SR MANAGING ATTORNEY $390,078 $9,280 $399,358
ANA MCAHRON-SCHULZ DIRECTOR E&FA $378,920 $17,093 $396,013
KEITH HAGY DIRECTOR E&AS $361,147 $4,732 $365,879
LIZ KOBY SR MANAGING ATTORNEY $351,851 $12,003 $363,854
MARCUS MIGLIORE SR MANAGING ATTORNEY $346,079 $2,598 $348,677
CLAY WARNER SR MANAGING ATTORNEY $346,103 $1,564 $347,667
ART LUBY ASST DIR REPRESENTATION $339,476 $6,558 $346,034
ANDREW SHOSTACK ASSIST DIR REPRESENTATION $321,125 $21,059 $342,184
MARIE SCHWARTZ DIR STRAT MBR DEV & RES $334,695 $1,989 $336,684
BETH ROBINSON DIRECTOR FINANCE CFO $335,247 $1,315 $336,562
MARGARITA LORENZETTI DIRECTOR FINANCE $317,109 $1,665 $318,774
DONALD MOAK PRESIDENT $245,562 $67,977 $313,539
RUSS BAILEY SENIOR ATTORNEY $308,420 $5,070 $313,490
RUSSELL WOODY SR BENEFITS ATTORNEY $304,102 $390 $304,492
KELLY COLLIE DIRECTOR HUMAN RESOURCES $302,188 $1,957 $304,145
ELIZABETH BAKER DIRECTOR GOVT AFFAIRS $282,374 $13,241 $295,615
RICHARD HARRELL DIRECTOR IT & SERVICES $294,134 $885 $295,019
JOHN SCHLEDER SR LBR REL CNSL/MEC COORD $279,438 $4,756 $284,194
STEVE HODGSON MANAGER R&I $273,352 $6,590 $279,942
CATHY ST. DENIS DIRECTOR COMMUNICATIONS $277,122 $2,489 $279,611
$54,809 $222,124 $276,933
ROB PLUNKETT SR LBR RELATIONS COUNSEL $275,896 $254 $276,150
JANE SCHRAFT SR LBR REL CNSL/MEC COORD $274,188 $910 $275,098
MICHAEL ROBBINS MANAGING DIRECTOR GA & PA $272,223 $107 $272,330
CHRIS BAUM MGR ENGINEERING&OPS $268,228 $3,920 $272,148
NEAL DAVIS LABOR RELATIONS COUNSEL $237,267 $29,224 $266,491
VICTORIA FORTUNA SR BENEFITS ATTORNEY $256,620 $7,762 $264,382
DANIEL MCMANUS PENSION INVESTMENT COORD $253,600 $9,420 $263,020
JOE DEPETE FIRST VICE-PRESIDENT $0 $257,715 $257,715
JERRY WRIGHT MGR AVIATION SAFETY&SECUR $254,547 $2,918 $257,465
DAVID HOLTZMAN SR LBR RELATIONS COUNSEL $244,554 $7,890 $252,444
JOAN (JODY) BETTENBURG SR LBR RELATIONS COUNSEL $241,856 $4,937 $246,793
JOHN DEAN SR LBR RELATIONS COUNSEL $230,770 $15,357 $246,127
LEE VEID-NORSTERN MANAGER IT DEVEL&SUPPORT $240,494 $3,608 $244,102
JIM LOBSENZ SENIOR ATTORNEY $235,068 $5,437 $240,505
ANDREA GRIFFITH MGR FINANCE&MEM ADMIN $232,688 $2,008 $234,696
WILLIAM COUETTE VICE PRESIDENT ADMIN $0 $228,040 $228,040
JOHN WELLS SENIOR ATTORNEY $221,514 $3,206 $224,720
KYE JOHANNING MANAGER E&FA $199,961 $24,217 $224,178
TERRENCE MCTIGUE SR LBR REL CNSL/MEC COORD $216,426 $2,986 $219,412
JACK PARRACK SR ENROLLED ACTUARY $214,733 $1,609 $216,342
SUZANNE KALFUS SENIOR ATTORNEY $209,270 $5,091 $214,361
ANDREW BRENNER SR LBR REL CNSL/MEC COORD $212,316 $1,961 $214,277
DAVID HANNAH SR LBR RELATIONS COUNSEL $206,599 $3,012 $209,611
SANDRA PUSEY SR DATABASE ADMINISTRATOR $203,537 $2,870 $206,407
JIM MEDLEY SR APPLICATIONS ARCHITECT $205,762 $0 $205,762
DAVID SEMANCHIK SENIOR ATTORNEY $198,703 $6,394 $205,097
DON MCCLURE AIR SAFETY COORDINATOR $201,281 $1,019 $202,300
MARCIA EUBANKS LEAD FINANCIAL ANALYST $188,720 $10,549 $199,269
WAYNE KLOCKE SR LBR RELATIONS COUNSEL $196,188 $2,861 $199,049
W. HELLING VICE PRESIDENT FINANCE $0 $196,836 $196,836
HONG LEE SR DATABASE ADMINISTRATOR $196,390 $0 $196,390
MATTHEW BABCOCK SENIOR ATTORNEY $194,757 $1,474 $196,231
GORDON ROSE SR LBR RELATIONS COUNSEL $189,514 $5,392 $194,906
DOUGLAS BAJ MGR STRATEGIC PILOT COM $188,651 $5,420 $194,071
ERIN SHIELDS SR LBR RELATIONS COUNSEL $189,051 $2,946 $191,997
BERT LEGER LABOR RELATIONS ADVISOR $146,261 $45,625 $191,886
TERRY SATURDAY SR LBR RELATIONS COUNSEL $188,523 $2,131 $190,654
SHARON VEREB MGR MBR COMMUNICATIONS $185,233 $3,180 $188,413
HELEN WONG-SCRUGGS SR WEB DEVELOPER $188,312 $0 $188,312
CHRIS MCCARTHY SUPERVISOR IT OPS&SUPPORT $183,830 $3,013 $186,843
MIKE CRANFORD SR SYSTEMS INTEGRATOR $185,963 $0 $185,963
TRAI NGUYEN SR NETWORK INTEGRATOR $185,281 $618 $185,899
JORDAN AUSTIN LEGISLATIVE REP $154,382 $30,179 $184,561
MIKE CARNEY MANAGER REAL ESTATE $183,372 $0 $183,372
JEFFREY LOESEL LABOR RELATIONS COUNSEL $179,442 $2,613 $182,055
CHARLES YEAGER SUPV APPL&WEB DEVEL $180,039 $854 $180,893
JANIE MILLER SYSTEMS ANALYST $180,350 $368 $180,718
BILL DESPINS LEAD ECONOMIC ANALYST $178,743 $921 $179,664
CHAD BALENTINE SUPV ENG & ACCIDENT INV $169,774 $6,152 $175,926
CLINTON BURNER WEB ARCHITECT&DBA $175,699 $0 $175,699
DAVID MARTIN LEGISLATIVE REP $159,675 $15,569 $175,244
MARTA WAGNER SENIOR ATTORNEY $174,872 $298 $175,170
CORY TENNEN SR SCHED&WORK RULE ANALYS $168,369 $6,142 $174,511
KENNETH MULDER SUPV NETWORK SYS SUPPORT $171,556 $1,625 $173,181
RICHARD PARKER ANALYST/PROGRAMMER $172,327 $0 $172,327
ERIC IVERSON SR LBR RELATIONS COUNSEL $165,119 $3,330 $168,449
DONNA KEESE SUPERVISOR FINANCE $167,580 $745 $168,325
REBECCA RONG ANALYST/PROGRAMMER $168,281 $0 $168,281
LAP NGUYEN SYSTEMS ANALYST $167,670 $0 $167,670
KEVIN COMSTOCK SR TRAINING&QUAL SPEC $161,415 $5,640 $167,055
MARK KOVACH SUPERVISOR GEN ACCOUNTING $166,030 $537 $166,567
PAUL KARG LEAD FINANCIAL ANALYST $160,278 $4,660 $164,938
PAM QUAYLE SUPV EVENT PLANNING $163,310 $935 $164,245
JENNIFER CRICHTON SUPERVISOR ACCOUNTING $162,251 $306 $162,557
MIGUEL BARRETO SUPV MEMBER BENEFITS $159,876 $1,133 $161,009
MARK ANGOLIA SR COMM PROD SPECIALIST $151,083 $5,655 $156,738
LAUREN REED LABOR RELATIONS COUNSEL $145,636 $10,589 $156,225
ANYA PIAZZA STRAT PLANNING & TRAINING $152,898 $2,788 $155,686
RON RINDFLEISCH LEAD ORGANIZER $150,982 $4,559 $155,541
ERIN PHILBIN SUPV MEMBERSHIP ADMIN $154,196 $1,300 $155,496
KAY YANCEY SR ECONOMIC ANALYST $142,055 $12,945 $155,000
ROBERT HANCOCK SR WEB DEVELOPER $154,847 $0 $154,847
SALLY GLOVER LABOR RELATIONS COUNSEL $149,716 $2,017 $151,733
CHRISTIAN HECK STAFF ENGINEER $136,569 $14,768 $151,337
RITU GOYAL SYSTEMS ANALYST $150,010 $0 $150,010
AMY ENO SUPV BALLOTING & LCS $149,479 $456 $149,935
MARK REED STAFF ENGINEER $144,261 $3,732 $147,993
GERALDINE MILLER PENSION INVESTMENT ANALYS $147,488 $303 $147,791
SUSAN FAGER ASSOC MANAGING & PROD ED $146,333 $1,116 $147,449
KAREN BROWNE-FLECK SR BENEFITS SPECIALIST $146,962 $382 $147,344
ZACHARY MOONEYHAM MANAGER GOVT AFFAIRS $144,400 $2,942 $147,342
RIMA ZAMAT LABOR RELATIONS COUNSEL $121,733 $25,557 $147,290
ELIZABETH SPEAR SR ECONOMIC ANALYST $134,077 $11,354 $145,431
LOUISE FAWBUSH SENIOR PARALEGAL $145,401 $20 $145,421
LAURA NAAB COMPENSATION&BENEFIT SPEC $145,154 $0 $145,154
JEANETTE DUVALL SR ECONOMIC ANALYST $130,473 $14,376 $144,849
BLAIR DONOVAN OPERATIONS ANALYST $144,752 $0 $144,752
RICHARD BARTSCH SR OFFICE SYS INTEGRATOR $142,696 $1,798 $144,494
JAMES SHEA SR NETWORK INTEGRATOR $143,638 $706 $144,344
MARIAN TASHJIAN SR BENEFITS SPECIALIST $142,950 $208 $143,158
DARRYL JENKINS SR IT COORDINATOR $141,657 $1,092 $142,749
ALLISTER OGILVIE LEGAL & GA REP $141,738 $624 $142,362
JAN STEENBLIK TECHNICAL EDITOR $141,455 $644 $142,099
RONALD GRAHAM SR SYSTEMS INTEGRATOR $139,339 $1,882 $141,221
BRIDGER NEWMAN AVIATION SAFETY/SEC SPEC $135,812 $5,015 $140,827
ANYA MUDRY WEB DEVELOPER $139,875 $0 $139,875
SHIRLEY GIFFORD SUPV PURCHASING/MAILING $139,339 $0 $139,339
JOHN WHITE STAFF ENGINEER $132,284 $1,864 $134,148
ERIC DAVIS SUPV MULTIMEDIA PROD $130,715 $3,072 $133,787
DENA JACKSON LABOR RELATIONS SPEC $133,538 $242 $133,780
VICTORIA BRADY SR MEC BENEFIT SPECIALIST $131,327 $2,353 $133,680
JOHN STIFT STAFF ENGINEER $132,506 $1,142 $133,648
MARC BERGERON PROGRAMMER/ANALYST $133,390 $0 $133,390
JOHN HANSON LABOR RELATIONS COUNSEL $131,408 $330 $131,738
KATHY AHALT HR SPECIALIST/HRIS ADMIN $131,609 $0 $131,609
ALICIA MELVIN SPECIAL ASST TO PRESIDENT $119,924 $10,779 $130,703
KATHY HUNT MEC OFFICE SUPERVISOR $125,272 $5,409 $130,681
MARK STEPHENS NETWORK INTEGRATOR $130,063 $352 $130,415
LINDA SHOTWELL SR ADVOCACY COMM WRITER $128,235 $1,658 $129,893
JUDITH KETTENBEIL MEC OFFICE SUPERVISOR $127,182 $1,129 $128,311
ALICIA ALFIERE SR ECONOMIC ANALYST $116,997 $11,188 $128,185
MARY KELLY REGUS SR COMMUNICATIONS SPEC $124,138 $3,377 $127,515
MARQUE MALAN AEROMED&HUMAN PERF SPEC $125,054 $2,412 $127,466
YVONNE WILLITS GOVERNING BODIES SUPPORT $125,627 $1,094 $126,721
KELLY GRANIELLO FACILITIES COORDINATOR $125,563 $1,079 $126,642
MARK CATO SR STAFF ENGINEER $125,596 $846 $126,442
RICK KESSEL SR STAFF ENGINEER $124,141 $2,253 $126,394
TIMOTHY RAMIREZ NETWORK INTEGRATOR $126,233 $0 $126,233
KAREN TANNER AP TECHNICAL LEAD $123,413 $1,891 $125,304
EDIE BANKS STAFF ACCOUNTANT $124,940 $40 $124,980
KAREN PATE SR PUBLISHING COORDINATOR $124,856 $0 $124,856
JODY KRAZEISE OFFICE SYSTEMS INTEGRATOR $123,307 $655 $123,962
JEFFREY SMALL SR LBR REL CNSL/MEC COORD $123,270 $0 $123,270
ZACHARY ASHMAN WEB DEVELOPER $116,815 $3,910 $120,725
TAWNYA BURKET COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALIST $120,058 $74 $120,132
BARBARA GOTTSHALK STRATEGIC PLANNING & RES $116,043 $2,779 $118,822
MOLLY MARTIN SUPV CONTENT STRATEGY $118,656 $19 $118,675
COLIN KELLY SR COMMUNICATIONS SPEC $116,010 $2,351 $118,361
LATASHA SAGO LABOR RELATIONS COUNSEL $117,325 $0 $117,325
DAWN MCCALL-SMITH PROJECT COORDINATOR $116,025 $1,026 $117,051
JOHN NIEDERLEHNER MEMBERSHIP OPS ANALYST $116,904 $0 $116,904
JOHNATHAN NGUYEN SR PC SUPPORT/COMP OPER $116,595 $0 $116,595
NORA LAUTERBACH BENEFITS SPECIALIST $116,054 $0 $116,054
DARRELL PENNINGTON STAFF ENGINEER $114,645 $1,272 $115,917
AMY OKREI SR ADMIN ASSISTANT $115,635 $254 $115,889
SHARON FLYNN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT $114,118 $254 $114,372
BARBARA LONERGAN ADMIN ASST FIRST VP $114,183 $167 $114,350
JOHN WILEY SR SUPPORT SVCS ANALYST $114,114 $0 $114,114
LEE ALGER ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT $113,343 $282 $113,625
TONI CLEVELAND PARALEGAL $113,515 $0 $113,515
JOSE CASTRO ASSOCIATE WEB DEVELOPER $104,027 $8,175 $112,202
DONALD AYERS SR COMMUNICATIONS SPEC $103,650 $8,239 $111,889
RACHEL SAMUDA LABOR RELATIONS COUNSEL $106,483 $3,830 $110,313
NANCY HALSEY EVENT PLANNING SPEC $108,928 $1,004 $109,932
PHILIP THOMAS LBR RELATIONS SPECIALIST $108,994 $0 $108,994
KIMBERLY SEITZ SR COMMUNICATIONS SPEC $101,507 $7,478 $108,985
JAMES MASTBROOK SUPPORT SERVICES ANALYST $107,772 $0 $107,772
DANA MARTHINSEN SENIOR PAYROLL ANALYST $107,634 $0 $107,634
MELVIN FOREMAN IT & EVENT SERVICES COORD $106,046 $207 $106,253
ALEXANDER VEGA SR MEC IT SUPPORT TECH $100,538 $5,688 $106,226
GRANT WELLS IT COORDINATOR $105,992 $0 $105,992
MARLENE VESMAROVICH SR ADMIN ASSISTANT $99,645 $5,654 $105,299
DEBBIE CHERNAY INSURANCE MARKETING SPEC $105,021 $0 $105,021
KIM AGNEW GRAPHIC DESIGNER $104,037 $0 $104,037
JENNIFER LOFQUIST SR COMMUNICATIONS SPEC $100,004 $3,512 $103,516
DANIEL ORFIELD SR LBR RELATIONS COUNSEL $103,088 $0 $103,088
JONATHAN WOOD REAL ESTATE COORDINATOR $100,523 $1,396 $101,919
MARY OBRIEN SR PARALEGAL/CNTRCT SPEC $101,777 $0 $101,777
HOA TRAN RECRUITMENT&HR GENERALIST $101,766 $0 $101,766
DUANE DAVIS CONTRACT LIAISON $98,441 $2,725 $101,166
MARY ANN WALSH GRAPHIC DESIGNER $100,347 $716 $101,063
KELLY BARRETT SUPERVISOR CREATIVE SVCS $100,647 $22 $100,669
JANICE REED SR LEGAL ADMIN ASSISTANT $99,730 $0 $99,730
JANICE GENTRY SR BENEFITS SPECIALIST $98,477 $962 $99,439
LISA KWILAS BENEFITS SPECIALIST $98,714 $156 $98,870
YEN TRAN SR STAFF ACCOUNTANT $96,642 $1,521 $98,163
JENNIFER SUTTON SR COMMUNICATIONS SPEC $97,037 $862 $97,899
SHELLY JACKS STAFF ACCOUNTANT $97,473 $425 $97,898
SUSAN FIELDERS SR ADMIN ASSISTANT $97,156 $607 $97,763
SHELBY HARTMAN MEC OFFICE SUPERVISOR $97,078 $616 $97,694
CHRISTINE CATING SENIOR BUYER $97,499 $0 $97,499
CHRISTOPHER WEAVER ELECTRONIC COMM SPEC $96,274 $494 $96,768
RUTH HILLOCK SENIOR AP ANALYST $96,534 $0 $96,534
TINA LONG TRAINING AND ADMIN COORD $95,513 $874 $96,387
KEVIN PSUTKA SAFETY & SECURITY REP $93,908 $1,716 $95,624
ANNGI TIPTON SR ADMIN ASSISTANT $94,765 $477 $95,242
MARVIN RAMIREZ RESOURCE CENTER LIBRARIAN $93,690 $958 $94,648
JOHN PERKINSON STAFF WRITER $93,358 $824 $94,182
COREY CALDWELL SR MEDIA SPECIALIST $93,672 $0 $93,672
MARTHA MCVAY SENIOR PARALEGAL $91,348 $0 $91,348
JENNIFER CUMMINGS SR ADMIN ASSIST TO DIR $89,510 $896 $90,406
BARBARA SCHILLING SR LEGAL ADMIN ASSISTANT $89,922 $142 $90,064
TERRANCE GIBBS AR&BILLING OP ANALYST $88,802 $1,182 $89,984
LYDIA JAKUB STRATEGIC PLANNING & RES $85,199 $4,711 $89,910
KASIA NEWMAN RESEARCH LIBRARIAN $88,397 $948 $89,345
JAMES HEPPNER UAL MEC CHR $0 $88,852 $88,852
COURTNEY BLAND SR COMMUNICATIONS SPEC $87,180 $1,097 $88,277
CICELY JENKINS ON-LINE WEB COORDINATOR $87,383 $0 $87,383
PATRICIA HARMON MEC COMTE ADMIN ASSIST $86,263 $152 $86,415
PAMELA BLACK OFFICE COORDINATOR $82,300 $3,559 $85,859
SONYJA CARRINGTON ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT $83,727 $784 $84,511
ANGELA JORDAN-HAMILTON ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT $83,168 $791 $83,959
PATRICIA CRUZ SR ADMIN ASSISTANT $82,977 $190 $83,167
SUSAN BOULTER MAGAZINE&GRAPHIC DESIGNER $80,783 $1,208 $81,991
BRANDI CHANDLER STAFF ACCOUNTANT $79,876 $2,011 $81,887
ERIC SNOW MOTION GRAPHICS SPEC $80,811 $907 $81,718
JESICA FERRY MULTIMEDIA SPECIALIST $81,620 $0 $81,620
ROSE JOHNSON SENIOR PARALEGAL $81,606 $0 $81,606
CINDI WHEELER PRODUCTIONS SUPPORT COORD $81,203 $396 $81,599
PETRA DURAN-SMITH SR ADMIN ASSISTANT TO DIR $80,593 $527 $81,120
MARY KENNEDY ADVOCACY EDITOR-WRITER $80,317 $0 $80,317
CLAUDIA MARRERO HUMAN RESOURCES ASSISTANT $80,262 $0 $80,262
RANDY KENAGY MGR ENGINEERING&OPS $78,671 $1,571 $80,242
EDWIN HAVRILLA DAL MEC VCH $0 $78,958 $78,958
NADIA MCILHANY SENIOR PARALEGAL $77,833 $332 $78,165
BARBARA LUNA SR LEGAL ADMIN ASSISTANT $77,269 $117 $77,386
STEPHANIE FORBES MEMBERSHIP PROCESS ANALYS $77,285 $0 $77,285
WALTER TORRES MEDIA SPECIALIST $76,637 $0 $76,637
WARD BOTT FINANCE SPECIALIST $74,382 $2,169 $76,551
DEBRA NIEDRINGHAUS ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT $76,309 $0 $76,309
JULIE KINSEY SR ADMIN ASSIST C/AOFFICE $76,104 $0 $76,104
SHANNON STEWART LBR RELATIONS SPECIALIST $74,517 $1,424 $75,941
CHRISTINE HOWARD SR LEGAL ADMIN ASSISTANT $75,431 $0 $75,431
GINA LEAHY COPY EDITOR $75,257 $0 $75,257
SUZI FENTON WEB CONTENT COORDINATOR $74,269 $948 $75,217
TANGANEKA HINES PARALEGAL $75,208 $0 $75,208
PAUL (JERRY) CLUTTER SCHEDULING ADMIN COORD $74,863 $0 $74,863
KARI CANTRELL ADMIN ASSIST TO DIR COMM $74,752 $46 $74,798
ANN MUFFOLETTO ASST BENEFITS SPECIALIST $74,263 $267 $74,530
BARBARA PINOCCI BALLOTING & CS SPEC $73,469 $0 $73,469
PATRICIA MORSE INSURANCE ANALYST $73,343 $0 $73,343
JULIA MAYES SR COMMUNICATIONS SPEC $71,133 $2,132 $73,265
CURTIS TARPLEY SCHEDULING ADMIN COORD $73,240 $0 $73,240
ROBERT NOVAK MEMBERSHIP PROJ ANALYST $71,993 $0 $71,993
THOMAS BANKS RECEIVING&DISTRIB CLERK $71,560 $0 $71,560
CECILIA LEE MEM PROJECT & OPS ANALYST $70,584 $0 $70,584
KEVIN CUDDIHY ADVOCACY WRITER $69,749 $0 $69,749
ERIC JOHNSON PARALEGAL $68,021 $0 $68,021
RICHARD BOWERS BUYER $67,860 $0 $67,860
MARY ANNE PICKETT SR LEGAL ADMIN ASSIST $67,217 $0 $67,217
MARY STALICA SR ADMIN ASSIST MEC/LEC $66,825 $0 $66,825
LOGAN DURHAM ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT $66,289 $509 $66,798
MAUREEN NAQUIN AP SUPPORT LEAD $66,785 $0 $66,785
CYNTHIA COON PARALEGAL $59,956 $5,993 $65,949
THOMAS ENDFINGER ADMIN ASSISTANT-COMM $62,429 $3,346 $65,775
CASEY MAILLEY SR MBRSHIP ADMIN ANALYST $65,734 $30 $65,764
FAITH WALLACE SCHEDULING ADMIN COORD $65,646 $0 $65,646
RICHARD CAMERON UAL MEC TRE $0 $65,388 $65,388
EMILY TENER ADMIN ASSSIST C/A OFFICE $65,136 $154 $65,290
ERIC MEEWES WEBSITE COORDINATOR $64,280 $0 $64,280
ANNA JANCEWICZ SR LBR RELATIONS COUNSEL $58,254 $5,814 $64,068
BECKY OTT COUNCIL SVCS COORDINATOR $63,967 $0 $63,967
CHARIS SHERMAN SR BILLING ANALYST $63,942 $0 $63,942
CHARLES HERNANDEZ AR ANALYST $63,848 $0 $63,848
COLLEEN CHAVES SR AP ANALYST $63,714 $0 $63,714
ANA DASILVA A/R ANALYST $63,560 $0 $63,560
JOJAN BARRETT ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT $63,237 $307 $63,544
MICHAEL OLEM SR BILLING ANALYST $63,516 $0 $63,516
KRISTIN MATTER SENIOR BILLING ANALYST $63,430 $0 $63,430
ASHLEY LYTTLE SENIOR AP ANALYST $63,169 $7 $63,176
CHRISTINA BROWN ACCOUNTS PAYABLE ANALYST $62,345 $0 $62,345
LINDA JOHNSON AP SUPPORT ANALYST $61,914 $0 $61,914
SALLY OLIVER MEC ADMIN ASSISTANT $61,640 $0 $61,640
ERIN SMITH ADMIN COORDINATOR $60,865 $302 $61,167
ZACH KOPEC INTERNETMEDIA COORDINATOR $56,242 $4,337 $60,579
MARIA KELLY COUNCIL SERVICES COORD $60,497 $0 $60,497
ANNA CHOBANY SR BILLING ANALYST $60,452 $0 $60,452
CARL PEOPLES PUR&RECV/DIST CLERK $60,314 $0 $60,314
TRISH MCHUGH MEMBERSHIP ADMIN ANALYST $60,132 $0 $60,132
LISA NGUYEN ELECTIONS ASSISTANT $59,590 $0 $59,590
VIELDA ROBINSON EVTEXPANLST/EVTPLANASSIST $58,899 $120 $59,019
TAMARA BUSSINEAU ACCOUNTS PAYABLE ANALYST $58,946 $29 $58,975
ERIK RAMLJAK MEC IT SUPPORT TECHNICIAN $58,908 $0 $58,908
KEVIN LAROCHE ACCOUNTS PAYABLE ANALYST $58,749 $0 $58,749
CHER NYHOUS COUNCIL SVCS COORDINATOR $57,941 $0 $57,941
KIM HANSON LEGAL ADMIN ASSISTANT $57,491 $15 $57,506
RENEE MORRISETTE COUNCIL SERVICES COORD $57,429 $0 $57,429
LEAH COSTELLO MEMBERSHIP ADMIN ANALYST $57,409 $0 $57,409
JAMES TOUCHETTE EIA MEC CUS $0 $57,270 $57,270
COLLEEN BOYLE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT $57,214 $0 $57,214
VICTORIA NOBLE MEC ADMIN ASSISTANT $56,904 $0 $56,904
HOLLAND NGUYEN MEMBER INSURANCE SPEC $56,823 $0 $56,823
DANIEL COLLIER ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT $56,089 $700 $56,789
FRANCES KNIGHT MEMBERSHIP ADMIN ANALYST $56,213 $0 $56,213
NATHANIEL BAKER SR STAFF ACCOUNTANT $54,712 $209 $54,921
VANESSA KERMICK GRASSROOTS COORDINATOR $50,275 $3,591 $53,866
MAGGI COMES LEGAL ADMIN ASSISTANT $53,208 $600 $53,808
DIANA VEZZETTI AVIATION SAFETY/SEC SPEC $52,460 $410 $52,870
MATTHEW GEDDIE DAL MEC TRE $0 $52,578 $52,578
MERIDITH PRESTON ASST TO MEC SECY/TREAS $52,052 $0 $52,052
STACY CHALMERS ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT $49,979 $1,992 $51,971
JANICE GADRIX ACCOUNTING ASSISTANT $51,965 $0 $51,965
LYNDELL PROSSER ACCOUNTING ASSISTANT $51,877 $0 $51,877
RACHEL LONGINO IT SERVICES COORDINATOR $51,445 $0 $51,445
BRUCE BISHOP UAL MEC SEC $0 $50,834 $50,834
DAN PALCIC BUDGET & FIN ANALYST $49,281 $1,284 $50,565
MATTHEW IRWIN POLITICAL & LEGIS ASST $49,343 $283 $49,626
GREGORY RIZZUTO DAL MEC SEC $0 $49,010 $49,010
KRISTINE VASSER ADMIN ASSIST/RECEPTIONIST $48,898 $0 $48,898
MARIE DUPUIS BILINGUAL ADMIN ASSISTANT $47,840 $322 $48,162
MICHELLE YOUNG SR PUBLISHING COORD $48,133 $0 $48,133
CAROLYN HALL ADMIN ASSIST/RECEPTIONIST $47,673 $272 $47,945
JOANNE KARPUK OFFICE ASSISTANT $47,770 $0 $47,770
JIM OBERHELMAN SCHEDULING ADMIN COORD $46,711 $0 $46,711
BRIAN HEENAN PAC COORDINATOR $41,096 $638 $41,734
ROBERT ROUDIK SR STAFF ACCOUNTANT $41,342 $60 $41,402
SANDRA TITCOMB ELECTION/BALLOTING ANALYS $40,334 $0 $40,334
COLLEEN GENDREAU SECRETARY $39,695 $0 $39,695
TODD INSLER ALPA MEMBER $0 $38,681 $38,681
BRANDY HOUGH BENEFITS SPECIALIST $37,273 $267 $37,540
DAVID ALLEN XJT MEC CHR $0 $37,518 $37,518
TONI VACINEK SR COMMUNICATIONS SPEC $35,355 $0 $35,355
SEAN CASSIDY ALPA MEMBER $0 $34,393 $34,393
ANTHONY MIDDENDORFF ASA MEC CHR $0 $34,298 $34,298
AIROLYN LOGGINS LEGAL ADMIN ASSISTANT $33,353 $0 $33,353
ANDREW STREET MEMBERSHIP ADMIN ANALYST $31,292 $0 $31,292
DAVID LIDDLE MGR MEDIA RELATIONS $30,707 $0 $30,707
JONATHAN ALLEN PCL MEC CHR $0 $30,123 $30,123
LUCRETIA WILLIAMS LEGAL SECRETARY $28,642 $400 $29,042
GAYLE BEBEE ADMIN ASSISTANT P-T $27,951 $681 $28,632
MICHAEL DONATELLI DAL MEC CHR $0 $28,627 $28,627
SEAN MCDONALD FDX MEC STR $0 $28,411 $28,411

I agree with this. It almost seems like our union leadership is running scared for some reason. Not sure if it fear that the flow would be interrupted, retribution from management to leadership of the union or what.

Things to be done other than conference calls and emails to the members about how yet another issue is won by management.

Yeah someone should add that all up, lol.

The hate is strong with this one. You do realize that Envoy flows three times what PSA does right? Or would you rather sit at PSA for a decade waiting to flow.

Not sure how you got the description "hate" from anything I said. PSA has a considerably smaller pilot group as well. New hires here are also looking at an 8+ year flow. Also Envoy flow is set to reduce once the PP's are gone.

Anything else we should discuss?

That the language was unclear in the ‘14 agreement that I, and not quite enough other pilots, voted against we can agree on. But, I knew what that language was going to yield during those gun-to-our-heads negotiations, and a grievance wasn’t going to change that (at least, I don’t believe and arbitrator would have agreed with our position). So, when people say they gave away the farm to increase the rate of flow for the protected pilots, I just don’t see it.

So the company increased flow for the PP's simply because they felt like it?

I can think of one WO that was just flowing guys that waited over a decade to flow and it isn't PSA.

Well, they did eff us in ‘14 and now their ‘14 hires are flowing as compared to our ‘10 hires. Maybe for a new hire their time to flow is higher than ours, but let’s not forget that we had pilots vote no, then bolt over to PSA to undercut their former coworkers, who are now flowing through to AA faster. That is some grade a garbage.

The increase served multiple purposes. The company was already used to 30/mo with the 824, so that number was a comfortable number. The increase served as a marketing tool for the company and recruitment, and by settling the grievance they saved an arbitration process. Also, that settlement was in conjunction with the agreements to make it easier to hire direct entry captains, which they also wanted (the agreement that also gave CA pay beginning at award date). So, we’re there items that both sides wanted? Yeah. Did we give away the farm? No...

Well exactly, the company needed to get DEC's in the door and to show the flow was working as intended, if not better to increase recruiting. The company wanted more planes and more flying and needed the bodies to do both, hence why it is of my opinion that we should have asked for the pay raises and protections for all the Envoy pilots.

Would we have gotten it all, most likely no but hell if we dont fight for things we would never know. Who would have been hurt by turning down that agreement? The PP's? Ok so a little more time at Envoy, I get that. However it would have had negligible effects on the rest of the pilot group initially with the chance to greatly improve things for years to come.

Just one pilots opinion. I am really not trying to dog anyone, just feel we missed the opportunity to get more.

I agree that the union needs to give us guidance and direction on what we as line pilots can and should be doing on a daily basis to improve our position here.

That has been the problem, there is NONE, other than "We can't do anything as long as the classes are filling up". When you talk to Senior Union reps, they will go as far as pointing out how they almost got shut down a few years back.

So, in short, they are scared, unable and unwilling to stand up for the pilot group as a whole. (protected group seems to be a different story)

So maybe the question needs to be how to replace the current Union Leadership ...

And you realize that PSA is flowing 2013 hires right now and will be to 2014 hires soon. While we flow early 2010 hires.

LMAO!

PSA Sucks, they stole our aircraft, agreed to pay caps, and they're bringing down the whole industry, STOP THE WHIPSAW!!

- or-

PSA is now getting paid way more than us and faster flow and SAP, STOP THE WHIPSAW!!

And you clearly have no idea how ALPA as a whole works. And Teamsters has Stewards, ALPA has Status Reps.

But don't worry, your ignorance won't prevent AA from eventually paying all the WO carriers a very similar amount, probably sooner rather than later. Do you actually think they're going to let their precious 175s go understaffed?

You do know the DEC is still going to arbitration right?

You know we’re going to lose, because that’s what we do at arbitration. Mainly because our reps think that faith, spirit, and feelings are part of contract law. They’re always woefully outgunned and it shows.

You are out gunned because klocke is an idiot for a lawyer. He can mess up a wet dream and could not fight his way out of a wet paper bag. Thats from first hand knowledge.

So do we get PSA rates every time we fly through CLT now? Maybe if we say pretty please to the company they’ll allow it.

A 3rd year captain on reserve, no per diem, no additional hours. Pre-Tax values.

Envoy: $5,434.50
PSA: $6,576.00

2nd year FO, same.
Envoy: $3,043.50
PSA: $3,915.75


3rd year captain, 72 hour line, 300 hours of per diem, pre-tax values, 10 additional hours picked up.
Envoy: $6,123.06
PSA: $8,680.40

2nd year FO, 72 hour line, 300 hours of per diem, pre-tax value. 10 additional hours picked up.
Envoy: $3,530.46
PSA: $5,399.43


6th year captain on band B vs PSA 6th year, 72 hour line, 300 hours of per diem, 10 additional hours of flying, pre-tax.

Envoy: $6690.30
PSA: $9434.28

Everyone flying through CLT should get an extra $10 for each ramp frequency they have to talk to.

Maybe if you pay them based on their performance they actually try? What a concept ...

Everyone flying through Charlotte does make extra money. 45 min taxi, keep that over block comin! Piedmont rampers are the real MVP. Can never find their sticks and NEVER hustle, I love my extra moolah! Wait till it gets hot and they're all hanging out in the ac, it's a win win :)