American co-signed for those 900 but Mesa owns them.

Ahh gotcha... Well we shall see. Something is a happnin’ and I don’t know what it is just yet.

AA owns 10% of Mesa so they own have an ownership in those aircraft.

I have heard Doug Parker’s wife owned a portion of Mesa, first I have heard that AAG owned any portion of it.

But even if AAG owned a portion of the company, it’s not like they could just transfer those aircraft to a wholly owned.

The union better get on this and as far as I’m concerned we should be going for back pay to the effective date of PSA’s agreement. This is bull.

Excerpt from the following article sent out in today’s ALPA Daily:

https://www.bizjournals.com/chicago/news/2019/04/04/psa-airlines-significantly-sweetens-pilot-pay.html?ana=RSS&s=article_search

Why the new deal mid-contract?

PSA said it was necessary to “stay competitive in a rapidly-changing regional airline environment.”

Then do something about it and contact MEC Leadership directly and let them know, otherwise, nothing will change.

Yeah reading this is just a slap in the face on so many levels ...

Quit b!tch!ing we have 175s and flow..what more could you ask for? That is why most of you came here for. If it wasn't you would be at endeavor.

They own about 10 percent because when they went into bankruptcy that was part of the deal for us airways to get a percentage of Mesa I guess. So American has it now.

The way I understand it is that AAG has already approved the WOs to raise pay rates. This happened awhile back. But it’s up to each individual company when to/if to enact pay raises. At the end of the day, it comes out of the individual company’s balance sheet and it’s up to them how to balance their budgets.

Anyone find it strange that PSA recruitment hasn’t been news blasting this pay increase all over the place?

It’s quite possible even the recruiting department was blindsided by this deal. Might need a few days or more to catch up.

Any thoughts on getting rid of ALPO and going with APA? Might be constructive for those wishing to move on to AA someday, which is likely most. Asking for a friend.

Given that we work for a company that is too cheap to order plastic giveaway wings for kids, that means we'll get our raise sometime between now and never.

Looking at the past track record, right up to the current events, I would be all for it.

I'll buy that....

I'm game and the sooner the better! I'm tired of my $30+ per paycheck being taken by these fools when all they do is sit with their thumbs up their butts and wait to flow.
First, they seek to satisfy the pilot group by sending out a strongly worded email that they're "deeply disturbed by the route the company has taken from the event that happened a few weeks ago.
Second, PSA getting a pay raise and ALPA comes out with an email taking credit for the pay raise when in fact PSA came to the union.
I'm tired of the poor representation and my money going out the door with nothing to show for it.

Anyone got confirmation on a rumor that something like 1/3 of our next class withdrew in the wake of PSA pay? If it's true, good, and may there be more.

First I have heard of it, however I would surprised if there was that much of an exodus so quickly. I pray its true.

With all fairness if true to those who left. Higher pay, sap, premium and extra premium for over 75 hours, multiple cheap bases to live in and about 25 percent faster flow. Yes I do not blame them for jumping ship if true.

I dont think anyone would blame people for leaving Envoy before class right now. We have officially become bottom tier.

I truly hope that this is the case

Maybe a hair above PDT. But agree with the sentiment

True, just heard 15+ walked out.

Got up and walked , or just didn't show? The first would be an unreal dose of reality.

Sorry the word true was meant to be
Source, have no idea how it went as it did.

If the case, our union has some leverage but I don't have faith that they will use it.

It's been a known "secret" that walking out from one WO and going to another is a big no-no.
I very much doubt this.
But at the same time, I hope it's true. Knowing the source, it's probably a load of nonsense. Especially when the pay raises were known by the time the class started.

Actually it’s true and I know a few friends that have come from one wholly owned to another.

Walking out from class and getting hired by another WO?
Big difference there.

Is it really? Because I did it and never heard anything from it.

You quit and walked away from class, and got hired at another WO?
Or you left a 2-week notice, and got hired?
That's the difference, I don't know facts about this, but it's been touted here for years that you can't walk away from a class without leaving a notice (which is suggested here), and get hired at another WO.

Haven’t you been here like 6 months or something? How do you know what’s been touted for years?

Yes you’re right. But that’s not what happened. I think people just didn’t show

Not true, class showed up 100%. Thats why we had the class drop.

Looks like I've been Here, at APC, for 5 years.

I smell a mustache campaign in the works here

Haha, ok. For still being on probation as a new hire you sure do have everything figured out

So instead of having a point, that's all you've got?
Good on ya'.