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ParkingatMIA 04-24-2019 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2808152)
this person needs to be able to explain why the desire to leave a contract already signed and how they intend to otherwise fulfill the obligations.

Simple, Envoy refuses to adjust their compensation and work rules to reflect the changing market in comparison to the other regionals


It would be great to see the cadets leaving to take positions elsewhere until management comes to their senses
#FUPM #MEGA

pitchattitude 04-24-2019 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by ParkingatMIA (Post 2808253)
Simple, Envoy refuses to adjust their compensation and work rules to reflect the changing market in comparison to the other regionals


It would be great to see the cadets leaving to take positions elsewhere until management comes to their senses
#FUPM #MEGA

I agree completely. I would like to see a lot (all) of the cadets and RTPs in the pipeline go elsewhere. And I certainly agree with “Yes, I signed a contract and Envoy is no longer competitive with the industry.” But there still is a financial cost of breaking these contracts that will have to be dealt with.

SunnyFL 04-24-2019 04:05 PM

For everyone who responded I appreciate it. I’ll relay the word to him. I figured there would be some sort of obligation which is something he will need to consider. Thanks again!

jake cutter 04-25-2019 04:58 AM

I think it’s been brought up before that the $5k thing is a myth.

Phoenix21 04-25-2019 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by jake cutter (Post 2808548)
I think it’s been brought up before that the $5k thing is a myth.

The $5k thing used to be how much money they paid you while you were instructing hitting hours wickets.

If they individual didn’t take the money, they shouldn’t have to pay anything back. Historically PSA has had no problems with taking applicants from Envoy or Piedmont.

EnyFlyr 04-25-2019 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by Phoenix21 (Post 2808563)
The $5k thing used to be how much money they paid you while you were instructing hitting hours wickets.

If they individual didn’t take the money, they shouldn’t have to pay anything back. Historically PSA has had no problems with taking applicants from Envoy or Piedmont.

As far as I know they put a value on the flight benefits and all other “perks” you get while youre a CFI which is 5k.. i dont think the company will let you off the hook after using their flight bennies then going to another regional just like that

havick206 04-25-2019 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by EnyFlyr (Post 2808615)
As far as I know they put a value on the flight benefits and all other “perks” you get while youre a CFI which is 5k.. i dont think the company will let you off the hook after using their flight bennies then going to another regional just like that

I guess you’re just guessing and don’t really know.

The answer is: it’s different for everyone depending on what agreement they signed.

EnyFlyr 04-25-2019 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2808655)
I guess you’re just guessing and don’t really know.

The answer is: it’s different for everyone depending on what agreement they signed.

I was a cadet a while back and this is what a recruiter told me as far as I can remember.. you do the math. I didn't take any more before first day of class btw

havick206 04-25-2019 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by EnyFlyr (Post 2808706)
I was a cadet a while back and this is what a recruiter told me as far as I can remember.. you do the math. I didn't take any more before first day of class btw

There’s a difference between what a recruiter says, and what you actually sign.

Crimson37Roger 04-25-2019 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by EnyFlyr (Post 2808706)
I was a cadet a while back and this is what a recruiter told me as far as I can remember.. you do the math. I didn't take any more before first day of class btw

My contract only talks about repaying the $5,000 in bonuses if you accept them. There is no mention of paying for using the benefits they give you.

Read the contract you signed, don’t trust what other people say.


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