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SilentLurker 04-22-2019 09:16 AM
New PSA Pilot Pay Agreement
 
Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR (Post 2806883)
I do like AA APA lanyards. It shows unity in the fight for better QOL and contract. We should follow. MEGA

Careful now, some random company stalwart walking down the terminal might claim your in violation of FM1 uniform standards. Smh at this property.


Professional servitude/ AA lanyard uniformity rules is what we have in FM-1. Pilot unity busting is the intention.

I protest it by not wearing AA lanyard,. Just badge holder and clip. We can not choose what color or type lanyard we wear around our NECKS like many other airline pilot groups are allowed to do. Don’t get me started on ALPA- WO carriers wearing AA lanyard, FM-1 vs APA at mainline.

Notice who has balls and who does not.

MD-11Loader 04-22-2019 09:35 AM
Originally Posted by SilentLurker (Post 2806895)
Careful now, some random company stalwart walking down the terminal might claim your in violation of FM1 uniform standards. Smh at this property.


Professional servitude/ AA lanyard uniformity rules is what we have in FM-1. Pilot unity busting is the intention.

I protest it by not wearing AA lanyard,. Just badge holder and clip. We can not choose what color or type lanyard we wear around our NECKS like many other airline pilot groups are allowed to do. Don’t get me started on ALPA- WO carriers wearing AA lanyard, FM-1 vs APA at mainline.

Notice who has balls and who does not.
Denise is gone. No more step letters for having your jacket off before May 1st.

uavking 04-22-2019 09:48 AM
Originally Posted by SilentLurker (Post 2806895)
Careful now, some random company stalwart walking down the terminal might claim your in violation of FM1 uniform standards. Smh at this property.


Professional servitude/ AA lanyard uniformity rules is what we have in FM-1. Pilot unity busting is the intention.

I protest it by not wearing AA lanyard,. Just badge holder and clip. We can not choose what color or type lanyard we wear around our NECKS like many other airline pilot groups are allowed to do. Don’t get me started on ALPA- WO carriers wearing AA lanyard, FM-1 vs APA at mainline.

Notice who has balls and who does not.
A nice show of unity would be for guys to wear ALPA lanyards, since the company wouldn't have much of a leg to stand on telling folks to take them off. However, seeing as to how we can't get that many to wear ALPA pins to start with...

+1 on the badge clip. Want me to wear an AA lanyard, eh mgt? FUPM.

Cyio 04-22-2019 10:24 AM
Originally Posted by SilentLurker (Post 2806895)
Careful now, some random company stalwart walking down the terminal might claim your in violation of FM1 uniform standards. Smh at this property.


Professional servitude/ AA lanyard uniformity rules is what we have in FM-1. Pilot unity busting is the intention.

I protest it by not wearing AA lanyard,. Just badge holder and clip. We can not choose what color or type lanyard we wear around our NECKS like many other airline pilot groups are allowed to do. Don’t get me started on ALPA- WO carriers wearing AA lanyard, FM-1 vs APA at mainline.

Notice who has balls and who does not.
Yeah I don't wear the AA lanyard either, since why wear something that says we work for AA when we are lambasted constantly about NOT being AA employees.

Naviator 04-22-2019 11:09 AM
Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR (Post 2806883)
I do like AA APA lanyards. It shows unity in the fight for better QOL and contract. We should follow. MEGA
Maybe we should all start wearing AA APA lanyards and start a push to dump ALPA and have AA and all WO under APA.

blackbox348 04-22-2019 03:44 PM
...guess not, back to the old “it’s just around the corner!” #FUPM #MEGA

use2fly 04-22-2019 04:21 PM
Originally Posted by Naviator (Post 2806967)
Maybe we should all start wearing AA APA lanyards and start a push to dump ALPA and have AA and all WO under APA.
What in the world makes you think APA would want us?

crj700 04-22-2019 04:36 PM
Originally Posted by use2fly (Post 2807144)
What in the world makes you think APA would want us?
We went this route years ago when all the Eagles were under different unions. A single carrier petition was filed and granted. As result we had to pick one union for representation. APA and ALPA were the last two unions for consideration with the final selection being ALPA.

I'm convinced that had we gone APA, we would have been negotiation fodder when APA's current contract was up. APA would like to have us for leverage but as a representative entity, their loyalty would lie with the mainline.

Vapor Lock 04-22-2019 09:17 PM
Originally Posted by BigZ (Post 2806664)
How so? You were the one talking raise in 2020.
I meant in a general sense to any wide eye cadet who thinks they will see the money. Lol

Cyio 04-23-2019 03:43 AM
Originally Posted by crj700 (Post 2807157)
We went this route years ago when all the Eagles were under different unions. A single carrier petition was filed and granted. As result we had to pick one union for representation. APA and ALPA were the last two unions for consideration with the final selection being ALPA.

I'm convinced that had we gone APA, we would have been negotiation fodder when APA's current contract was up. APA would like to have us for leverage but as a representative entity, their loyalty would lie with the mainline.
Not to mention, if you talk to AA pilots, they are not thrilled with APA either.


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