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arbatistoni 04-09-2019 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2799858)
It's been a known "secret" that walking out from one WO and going to another is a big no-no.
I very much doubt this.
But at the same time, I hope it's true. Knowing the source, it's probably a load of nonsense. Especially when the pay raises were known by the time the class started.

maybe so but i know two people who have interviewed at envoy, who were offered a job and were going to accept it, but now are interviewing/trying to interview at PSA as a direct result of the pay raises.

dera 04-09-2019 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by arbatistoni (Post 2799915)
maybe so but i know two people who have interviewed at envoy, who were offered a job and were going to accept it, but now are interviewing/trying to interview at PSA as a direct result of the pay raises.

And that's great news for everyone. But saying "15 people quit the new hire class to go to PSA" is BS.

Crimson37Roger 04-09-2019 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2799924)
And that's great news for everyone. But saying "15 people quit the new hire class to go to PSA" is BS.

Most of the garbage posted on here is BS.

SkylineAviation 04-10-2019 03:49 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2799898)
So instead of having a point, that's all you've got?
Good on ya'.

Here’s the point that you missed Dera. You’ve been at Envoy for all of a couple months but yet the entire Envoy forums are filled with your arguing and know it all posts. There are people on here with knowledge or 1st hand experiences of things you may know little to noting about. Furthermore, this forum is not as anonymous as many would believe. As a probationary pilot I would focus on staying out of the light, learning from crews you fly with and studying. I would not spend all my effort shining a light on myself and confronting anyone here who has different information or opinions than yourself.

Seven3Seven 04-10-2019 12:01 PM

But you guys have one of your own rookie pilots recruiting for the company on youtube.



That bugs me and I dont even work there

dera 04-10-2019 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by SkylineAviation (Post 2800060)
Here’s the point that you missed Dera. You’ve been at Envoy for all of a couple months but yet the entire Envoy forums are filled with your arguing and know it all posts. There are people on here with knowledge or 1st hand experiences of things you may know little to noting about. Furthermore, this forum is not as anonymous as many would believe. As a probationary pilot I would focus on staying out of the light, learning from crews you fly with and studying. I would not spend all my effort shining a light on myself and confronting anyone here who has different information or opinions than yourself.

So posting lies and alternate facts is fine, but correcting them is wrong.
Again, good on ya'.

BigZ 04-10-2019 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2800648)
So posting lies and alternate facts is fine, but correcting them is wrong.
Again, good on ya'.

Dude, do you, perhaps, find it noteworthy that a few people here told you that there is a chance you have no idea whatsoever about half the things you are talking about? "Facts" aren't worth a crap when misapplied. Go read up on base awards and effective transfer dates if you want a recent example.
Hint - a friend bid NFE to OFE april 18 and got it. Transferred over august 18, saw that his relative seniority sucks, bid back and was back in LGA january 19. But yeah, go keep throwing around "immediate base awards" "facts".

Varsity 04-10-2019 06:52 PM

I don't think increased pay is coming.
:(

dera 04-10-2019 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by BigZ (Post 2800668)
Dude, do you, perhaps, find it noteworthy that a few people here told you that there is a chance you have no idea whatsoever about half the things you are talking about? "Facts" aren't worth a crap when misapplied. Go read up on base awards and effective transfer dates if you want a recent example.
Hint - a friend bid NFE to OFE april 18 and got it. Transferred over august 18, saw that his relative seniority sucks, bid back and was back in LGA january 19. But yeah, go keep throwing around "immediate base awards" "facts".

Hey, those "immediate" base awards were facts from the last vacancy bid. It's not that far off now.
And hey - most junior guys got what they wanted, the most junior guys were only a few numbers away from their nr.1 preference. The most junior guy got his nr2 3P. He will get it next round. He'll hold it maybe 4-5 months off IOE. Big deal. I dont think it's bad, but that's just me.

You're complaining about 3-4 month base transfers. Seriously? Grow up.

And this is just hilarious coming from someone like you. You said that it takes a year to hold a line at DFL. Guess what, it doesn't, and it never did. I think so far my comments have been more accurate than yours.

UncreativeUser 04-10-2019 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2800688)
Hey, those "immediate" base awards were facts from the last vacancy bid. It's not that far off now.

And hey - most junior guys got what they wanted, the most junior guys were only a few numbers away from their nr.1 preference. The most junior guy got his nr2 3P. He will get it next round. He'll hold it maybe 4-5 months off IOE. Big deal. I dont think it's bad, but that's just me.



You're complaining about 3-4 month base transfers. Seriously? Grow up.



And this is just hilarious coming from someone like you. You said that it takes a year to hold a line at DFL. Guess what, it doesn't, and it never did. I think so far my comments have been more accurate than yours.



I know a few guys who got DFE immediately too, didn’t think that was possible. This company is way to hard to predict...


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