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Old 04-29-2019, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik View Post
Seems like a great way to promote a good safety culture.
Amen, brother. Been with MQ 3 years now, and it’s been about 2.5 years since I last saw a carrot. Been seeing a lot more of the stick these days.
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Old 04-29-2019, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik View Post
Would that not cover a non intentional pilot deviation (if that’s what we’re talking about here)?
ASAP only protects you when it's a sole source event. This wasn't.
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Old 04-29-2019, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by dera View Post
ASAP only protects you when it's a sole source event. This wasn't.
Not totally accurate. Sole source you basically don’t have a time frame and non-sole source you have to report within 24 hours.

ASAP protects from the FAA not the company.
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Old 04-29-2019, 11:59 AM
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So what happened?
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Old 04-29-2019, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Cyio View Post
Not totally accurate. Sole source you basically don’t have a time frame and non-sole source you have to report within 24 hours.

ASAP protects from the FAA not the company.
Does that mean the company can use your ASAP report against you if it's the sole source?
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Old 04-29-2019, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine View Post
So what happened?
Made a wrong turn after departing ORD. Controllers caught it before anything happened. Media caught wind of it and it became a story.

Rumor has it a VIP may have been onboard. Who knows, either way the company totally over reacted and didn’t follow its past precedent.
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Originally Posted by rld1k View Post
Does that mean the company can use your ASAP report against you if it's the sole source?
That's how I understand it. It's important to file an ASAP when you need to. But you really don't want to be filing ASAP reports for every little thing 'just in case'.
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