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Old 04-25-2019 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Varsity
It is, but in 2016 Envoy was hiring literally anyone and everyone.

We are still living with the consequences of it.
I stand corrected. Very good point. I was one of the ones hired in 2016 2017 wave and I had a lot of fellow classmates that I couldn’t believe were even there...
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Old 04-25-2019 | 11:08 AM
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And they probably still here
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Old 04-25-2019 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
Pilot skills, study habits.
I hear worse things about new hires attitudes now than I ever did back then.
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Old 04-25-2019 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ijustlikeflying
I stand corrected. Very good point. I was one of the ones hired in 2016 2017 wave and I had a lot of fellow classmates that I couldn’t believe were even there...
Our class only had two and neither made it through training so in reality it doesn’t matter. If you have a good attitude you will do fine. This isn’t rocket science, not even close.
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Old 05-02-2019 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
Our class only had two and neither made it through training so in reality it doesn’t matter. If you have a good attitude you will do fine. This isn’t rocket science, not even close.
Bring an FO isn't rocket science. Being a captain is. I shared a crashpad with an Envoy guy from that era who couldn't decide where to park his car if his life was on the line. That's not the guy I would want making decisions in the cockpit.
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Old 05-02-2019 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ninerdriver
Bring an FO isn't rocket science. Being a captain is. I shared a crashpad with an Envoy guy from that era who couldn't decide where to park his car if his life was on the line. That's not the guy I would want making decisions in the cockpit.
I will agree that being a Captain is a lot more difficult, however cherry picking bad apples too make an argument is thin at best. There were a lot of people hired in 2016-2017 and I would say most are still here if they wanted to be here.

The way this topic talks you would think we have 500-1000 morons out on the line simply because they were hired during a specific time period, keeping their job solely out of dumb luck or something. If we go by this logic, we should be seeing huge upticks in incidents and accidents as they all start upgrading.
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Old 05-02-2019 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
I will agree that being a Captain is a lot more difficult, however cherry picking bad apples too make an argument is thin at best. There were a lot of people hired in 2016-2017 and I would say most are still here if they wanted to be here.

The way this topic talks you would think we have 500-1000 morons out on the line simply because they were hired during a specific time period, keeping their job solely out of dumb luck or something. If we go by this logic, we should be seeing huge upticks in incidents and accidents as they all start upgrading.
There does seem to be a number of overspeeds and that type of thing.
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Old 05-05-2019 | 08:46 AM
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Sssssshhhhhhhhh,
The silence is deafening.
Thank you mec for failing one more time.
Silence is managements weapon to success.
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Old 05-05-2019 | 08:54 AM
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PSA has unmatched company contribution to 401k, we don't.
PSA has vacation their 1st year, we don't.
PSA has SAP, we don't.
PSA has referral bonuses, we don't.
PSA gets 75hrs min guarantee in training, we don't.
PSA gets 24hrs per diem in training, we don't.


How can we possibly cost more. Beyond me.
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Old 05-05-2019 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Varsity
PSA has unmatched company contribution to 401k, we don't.
PSA has vacation their 1st year, we don't.
PSA has SAP, we don't.
PSA has referral bonuses, we don't.
PSA gets 75hrs min guarantee in training, we don't.
PSA gets 24hrs per diem in training, we don't.


How can we possibly cost more. Beyond me.
bUt We HaVe OnE SeVeN FiVeS aNd A fAstEr FlOoOoW!!!!!!!!!
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