You're right in the fact that the company really has no right to know about your medical problems, but it isn't a HIPAA violation to ask. It would be a HIPAA violation if the company went to your doctor and the doctor gave out your protected medical information without your permission. It's not a HIPAA violation to ask for information, or for the patient to give it out themselves.

Not arguing with the premise. I agree, it's inappropriate for the company to ask about your personal medical information. If the company asks what illness you had, you could say "Dr. HIPAA said I didn't have to tell you."

Strikes are of course tightly controlled, but picketing in the context of organized labor is pretty much protected activity at any time. Probably best to coordinate with the union first...

Good news needs to come soon...I’ve seen a lot of CAs taxiing in two engines and running the APUs...for pax comfort and safety.

Anytime a company is handing out big bonuses to new hires instead of paying their current employees should be a red flag.

I don't feel bad for any FO who had buyers remorse. They did this to themselves when they failed to do their research before coming here, and they screwed over all the senior pilots by accepting the bonuses allowing the company to keep the pay scale low.

Welcome to envoy and their management. This is nothing compared to 2014. What did you all expect knowing how they treated the pilots back then?

All time low?. I was there after 9/11. All the flowback, coming back, everyone getting displaced... not sure you understand “all time low”...

This is one of the reasons all of these huge signing bonuses were more of a deterrent for me than anything....
The first year looks good, but at what cost?

Many that are Envoy now weren’t even pilots then, let alone at Eagle. I had about eight or ten resumes and apps just put in the mail the week of 9/11 and thought I was headed to a major. I was unemployed shortly after and still won’t be at a major any time soon.

Okay, we understand that that you’ve been dragged through the mud.I can’t even begin to fathom the hardships you had to go through.


This is 2019 now. Present time, with a pilot group that is going through their own struggles with management as well.

Stop living in the past. We’re not there anymore. Learn from it.

We’re fighting an uphill battle as it is and to play tit for tat on who had it worse isn’t helping anyone.

I would tend to agree with this. While not discounting the crap fest that many before had to deal with, pain, suffering and feelings of moral are relative to ones own experiences. Sure, we are able to sympathize with others to a point, but until you have a basis point to compare it off of one struggles to relate it to themselves.

It's the same reason there are pain scales in hospitals, you can't just say that stomach pain is a 5 across the board, people feel it differently based on what pain they have felt in the past.

This may be an all time low for guys hired within last 1-2 years but to say it’s an all time low for Envoy is completely laughable. No need to look further back than even within the last 5-8 years.