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Weekendwarrior2 05-21-2019 11:09 AM

[QUOTE=UncreativeUser;2823948]Incoming RW email comments in 3...2...1...


Deleted it as soon as I saw it was about “Ops Reliability”

blackbox348 05-21-2019 11:19 AM

Make sure to pull the bridge and close the door before you get the close out so you can RTG when there’s a miscount.

moon 05-21-2019 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by blackbox348 (Post 2823969)
Make sure to pull the bridge and close the door before you get the close out so you can RTG when there’s a miscount.

sounds good to me get paid while ops figures it out. overblockcity.

MD-11Loader 05-21-2019 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2823948)
Incoming RW email comments in 3...2...1...

I just took a slimy dump by B40 and I swear it sounded just like the text of Ric’s email if he was to stand hear and read it to me.

GCPhoenix 05-21-2019 12:15 PM

The OP might be more reliable if we were paid properly.

29Eleven 05-21-2019 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by GCPhoenix (Post 2824007)
The OP might be more reliable if we were paid properly.

In exchange for an AA seniority number and mainline wages I will gladly be at the gate 45, heck even 46 minutes early, and I’ll fly this jet as fast as possible.

AeroEnvoy 05-21-2019 12:51 PM

It almost seems like Rick purposefully sends out emails like these to try and taunt us.

Cyio 05-21-2019 12:54 PM

Wait a minute, I am confused.

Be at gate 45 min prior to departure? Thats not what the FM1 states. We have to sign in that much before a sequence but I thought it was 20 min prior we had to be at the gate.

Leaving passengers and jumps seaters behind? That should boost moral a ton. I can already see gate agents leaving us there because it took them too long to process all the other passengers.

We are always told to fly at planned airspeed for fuel/diversion reasons. I won't be flying faster simply because I feel it will make up more time. Do you think the company will have our backs if we divert because of fuel after an unplanned event because we "were trying to make up some time"?

All of this talk of Ops Reliability goes out the window the second weather, mechanical or VIP issues come up. Its not the 1 min late departure that FUBARS the system. These people are amazing.

I am honestly surprised they get as good of work out of the entire Envoy employee group as they do considering the pay and qol.

Ric "The Dick" at it again.

imthecaptainnow 05-21-2019 01:00 PM

In that email RW says fly faster to make up time that may have been lost. On the other hand we have the training dept. saying to fly the flight planned speeds to essentially prevent any overspeeds that could occur.

This place is a complete joke and the low value aviator in me says why bother anymore.

moon 05-21-2019 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2824029)
Wait a minute, I am confused.

Be at gate 45 min prior to departure? Thats not what the FM1 states. We have to sign in that much before a sequence but I thought it was 20 min prior we had to be at the gate.

Leaving passengers and jumps seaters behind? That should boost moral a ton. I can already see gate agents leaving us there because it took them too long to process all the other passengers.

We are always told to fly at planned airspeed for fuel/diversion reasons. I won't be flying faster simply because I feel it will make up more time. Do you think the company will have our backs if we divert because of fuel after an unplanned event because we "were trying to make up some time"?

All of this talk of Ops Reliability goes out the window the second weather, mechanical or VIP issues come up. Its not the 1 min late departure that FUBARS the system. These people are amazing.

I am honestly surprised they get as good of work out of the entire Envoy employee group as they do considering the pay and qol.

Ric "The Dick" at it again.

Fm1 says flight crews should be at operations or the departure gate, depending on airport, for normal or adjusted show times.


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