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So can someone give some of the questions and answers that happened at the MEC meeting?

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Originally Posted by Inclined plane (Post 2843901)

Wouldn’t it actually be 150% or 100%?
The company did have to actually pay reserve FOs some money, so someone sitting in that right seat has actually been compensated (very poorly compared to other WO) but I wouldn’t say that the flight was operated with $0 cost incurred to filling the right seat.

Let them use the reserves. Even if they never zero out, the company may feel some pressure to bolster the FO side a bit more than what they had, and find that it’s now slightly more difficult to attract applicants (non-cadets/RTP) to the lowest paid WO where management clearly undervalues us.

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No, it's 150% or 0%. You never break guarantee off reserve, they are paying you to sit at home most of the month. So when they assign a trip to a reserve, it doesn't cost them anything. That guy gets paid, makes no difference if he flies or not. If you pick up OT, they pay you 150% above your monthly guarantee.

I'm not staying picking up OT is "sticking it", I'm just saying it's not a favor to the company. It costs them more. And you can pick up OT on your days on, that's how most of my OT this month has been.

Are you seriously suggesting this company needs more reserves? The common opinion here is that we are way overstaffed and have excessive reserves. Which one is it?

Be careful about how you talk with dera on here. It’s a good way to get reported if you say anything that can be construed as negative about him personally. Ask me how I know.

In my opinion, helping the company by picking up OT right now is kind of pathetic. Maybe critical coverage if you have an emergency. Company has tied pay to staffing.

Welcome back Dera, I see you are making yourself known again.

AA/Envoy give away what they pay you extra for OT in free booze each flight. Think about that. You are costing them nothing in terms of meaningful dollars. It’s a non issue for them so stop that argument.

This company has and will again canceled flights because they lacked FO’s, I’ve seen it. Please don’t throw out certainties that you can’t back up. Is it rare, yes, but it does happen.

Lastly, picking up OT is every pilots right and some guys need it to get by, which I think is the problem right. We shouldn’t have to depend on picking up OT just to get remotely close to what our peers get my hitting min guarantee.

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Originally Posted by dera (Post 2843866)

I'm not. I'm just saying picking up OT isn't doing company any favors. It costs company more. They don't cancel flights because they don't have FO's.

So the common complaint is that reserves never fly.
The other one is how we are overstaffed with excessive reserves.
Now you're saying they run out of reserves?

Not sure what is going on.

They've ran out of reserves once in my seat this year. How about yours?

The FO list that I’m on zeros out almost daily.

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Originally Posted by Sasquatched (Post 2844189)

The FO list that I’m on zeros out almost daily.

CRJ is an exception.
And remember, at 0, you still have standbys.
As a general rule, there are plenty of FOs at Envoy.

Any updates on what was said at the MEC meeting?

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Originally Posted by Weekendwarrior2 (Post 2844228)

Any updates on what was said at the MEC meeting?

I second the question. :confused:

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Originally Posted by dera (Post 2843760)

Not a word? Apart from every rep being under one roof yesterday answering questions?

Care to share what was said?

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Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2844261)

Care to share what was said?

Very long story short:

SP was much more optimistic about the situation than anyone here. He said it's a bit of a Mexican Standoff right now, but they are still talking.

He also said, that the company does recognize the need for change.

AAG wouldn't say (obviously they wouldn't, that would be a bad negotiating strategy) what the breaking point was. The deal included things like automatic confirmation of profferings for next day, 12 min days off for reserves and so on. They are working on it.

He also said (and I will get shXt for this but whatever) that the best thing you can do, is to act professional, do your job, and avoid negotiating in public. He said that one of the strongest arguments they have on that table is that we are the best performing AA regional, and that's why we deserve the best compensation.

He partly blamed Pedro for the situation - PSA and Piedmont have been telling AA that they have issues, Pedro has been saying "everything's a-okay, we are doing great".

Let's see how you guys spin this. None of these are my words or opinions.