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havick206 06-23-2019 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2842184)
Let’s face it, 121 isn’t for everyone and Envoy in particular can put a pretty bad taste in your mouth.

There are a lot of reasons for the high attrition rate the first year.

They’re not 1st year though. They’re the group that we’re stuck on reserve 12 months, then did another 12+ months and have upgraded or upgrading now. Not getting a pay deal done pushed a lot over the fence.

pitchattitude 06-23-2019 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2842186)
They’re not 1st year though. They’re the group that we’re stuck on reserve 12 months, then did another 12+ months and have upgraded or upgrading now. Not getting a pay deal done pushed a lot over the fence.

If that’s the case, nothing or minimal to pay back.

If there is an increase in senior FO/ junior CA, then maybe the company will finally start REacting, since that seems to be the only way anything happens.

Hopefully it is Captains that have gone through two upgrades and wasted more of the company’s money and training slots.

martyByrde 06-26-2019 07:25 AM

Bump
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Weekendwarrior2 06-26-2019 07:30 AM

Envoy: The LOWEST paid Wholly Owned.
 

Originally Posted by martyByrde (Post 2843500)
Bump

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Another week will go by with nothing happening over the weekend. Rinse and repeat for the foreseeable future unfortunately.

MEGAFUPM 06-26-2019 12:03 PM

Just a reminder it's been 20 days since the Piedmont pay raise. 42 with back pay included. 80/86 for PSA.

martyByrde 06-26-2019 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by MEGAFUPM (Post 2843663)
Just a reminder it's been 20 days since the Piedmont pay raise. 42 with back pay included. 80/86 for PSA.

And not a word from the union or company

uavking 06-26-2019 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by MEGAFUPM (Post 2843663)
Just a reminder it's been 20 days since the Piedmont pay raise. 42 with back pay included. 80/86 for PSA.

Company doesn’t care so long as they get enough critical coverage picked up and bodies keep showing up for class.

dera 06-26-2019 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by martyByrde (Post 2843666)
And not a word from the union or company

Not a word? Apart from every rep being under one roof yesterday answering questions?

Houpilot2001 06-26-2019 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2843760)
Not a word? Apart from every rep being under one roof yesterday answering questions?

So, for all of us who live out of town, or were working....we want to know. It's not that complicated.

CafeConLeche 06-26-2019 05:40 PM

I wonder if Swane Martin will make a video about how Envoy and AA management don't think his pilot group at Envoy are worth as much as his fellow wholly owned American Eagle pilots.
I hope you new hires realize how much you're valued. Have some self worth and fight for what's right. Single engine taxies and waiting to turn the APU shouldn't be a thing over at Envoy. Picking up OT like Swane Martin made a video about on youtube should not be happening. Doing favors for Envoy needs to stop.
Management takes advantage of the fact that we as pilots truly love aviation. This doesn't mean we should sit back and take it. Eagle pilots make American Airlines great. It's not the other way around just to be clear.


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