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Varsity 07-16-2019 06:39 PM

The cadets are basically hired pilots.

How does the union not have access to them?

Paid2fly 07-16-2019 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by martyByrde (Post 2854383)
So what’s next? More cooling down? 🙄




Chillin like a villain?

UncreativeUser 07-17-2019 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 2854430)
The cadets are basically hired pilots.



How does the union not have access to them?



This.

When I was a cadet they never gave me ANY resources. One could argue “that’s cause they don’t pay dues” well what about probationary pilots? They don’t pay dues and yet get all the emails and everything. If they really wanted to reach cadets then they can so I believe that’s upon the union to carry out.


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Varsity 07-17-2019 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2854569)
This.

When I was a cadet they never gave me ANY resources. One could argue “that’s cause they don’t pay dues” well what about probationary pilots? They don’t pay dues and yet get all the emails and everything. If they really wanted to reach cadets then they can so I believe that’s upon the union to carry out.


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The union has tried to access them. The company has blocked them claiming they are a separate work group.

MEGAFUPM 07-17-2019 07:33 AM

Why can't we do something like this

https://youtu.be/z7rjtBntPWg

rld1k 07-17-2019 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by MEGAFUPM (Post 2854631)
Why can't we do something like this

https://youtu.be/z7rjtBntPWg

Finding anyone other than swayne to go on camera and be nice like that would be impossible.

UncreativeUser 07-17-2019 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by rld1k (Post 2854657)
Finding anyone other than swayne to go on camera and be nice like that would be impossible.



Did he end up doing the right thing?


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MEGAFUPM 07-17-2019 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2854664)
Did he end up doing the right thing?


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Since this was from 4 years ago I'm assuming that yes, they did get the raise, and probably another since.

Look at my previous post, a 3 year AA FA makes the same as a first year FO here. It's pretty sad when I'm sitting with an FO for a deadhead and we hear them complaining about how little they're paid only to chime in the conversation and find this out.

Especially sad considering an FO needs 1500 hours and the majority have a bachelor's degree with massive debt and/or also have previous military experience.

UncreativeUser 07-17-2019 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by MEGAFUPM (Post 2854684)
Since this was from 4 years ago I'm assuming that yes, they did get the raise, and probably another since.



Look at my previous post, a 3 year AA FA makes the same as a first year FO here. It's pretty sad when I'm sitting with an FO for a deadhead and we hear them complaining about how little they're paid only to chime in the conversation and find this out.



Especially sad considering an FO needs 1500 hours and the majority have a bachelor's degree with massive debt and/or also have previous military experience.



Yeah it’s pretty bad but we’ve made good progress in the industry as a whole, this raise needs to keep up with that trend otherwise we seriously are going to be bringing in some sketchy prospects who will never make it through training. Which means the company spends 50k for essentially nothing. So with that being said a year 3 FA making as much if not more than an FO with 150k of debt is alarming to say the least.


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MEGAFUPM 07-17-2019 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2854691)
Yeah it’s pretty bad but we’ve made good progress in the industry as a whole, this raise needs to keep up with that trend otherwise we seriously are going to be bringing in some sketchy prospects who will never make it through training. Which means the company spends 50k for essentially nothing. So with that being said a year 3 FA making as much if not more than an FO with 150k of debt is alarming to say the least.


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50k for 1-2 students that fail per class is nothing when you're saving over $1 million every 2 weeks underpaying your pilots


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