Originally Posted by EnyFlyr (Post 2851110)

I have seen their ads on facebook recently for Pilots. This is good news

Originally Posted by EnyFlyr (Post 2851110)

I have seen their ads on facebook recently for Pilots. This is good news

Originally Posted by VoiceOfReason (Post 2851427)

For what it's worth, weekly classes starting in mid-August. The number I saw was closer to 40-45 per month, not 60. If you guys are increasingly frustrated by your lot in life, are fairly junior, and have minimal chances of upgrading/flowing in the next five years...come on down. The water is fine at EDV!

Originally Posted by Shiner (Post 2851634)

With all of our new hires heading to LGA for the foreseeable future, they might as well go over there.


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Originally Posted by EnyFlyr (Post 2851654)

This is true. Some think they’ll catch the next hiring wave at envoy now before the pay raise (if it ever arrives) but that ship has sailed back in late 2016 early 2017 which could very well be a 5-6 year flow.

For all new-hires going to LGA now might as well get very well
compensated for it and go to Endeavor.

Originally Posted by HalyardJammer (Post 2850525)

I think that was the beginning of 18.

Originally Posted by copycopy (Post 2853976)

It was ~September or October ‘17 that EDV got their rates.

Originally Posted by martyByrde (Post 2854383)

So what’s next? More cooling down? 🙄

Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 2854430)

The cadets are basically hired pilots.



How does the union not have access to them?

Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2854569)

This.

When I was a cadet they never gave me ANY resources. One could argue “that’s cause they don’t pay dues” well what about probationary pilots? They don’t pay dues and yet get all the emails and everything. If they really wanted to reach cadets then they can so I believe that’s upon the union to carry out.


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Originally Posted by MEGAFUPM (Post 2854631)

Why can't we do something like this

https://youtu.be/z7rjtBntPWg

Originally Posted by rld1k (Post 2854657)

Finding anyone other than swayne to go on camera and be nice like that would be impossible.

Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2854664)

Did he end up doing the right thing?


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Originally Posted by MEGAFUPM (Post 2854684)

Since this was from 4 years ago I'm assuming that yes, they did get the raise, and probably another since.



Look at my previous post, a 3 year AA FA makes the same as a first year FO here. It's pretty sad when I'm sitting with an FO for a deadhead and we hear them complaining about how little they're paid only to chime in the conversation and find this out.



Especially sad considering an FO needs 1500 hours and the majority have a bachelor's degree with massive debt and/or also have previous military experience.

Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2854691)

Yeah it’s pretty bad but we’ve made good progress in the industry as a whole, this raise needs to keep up with that trend otherwise we seriously are going to be bringing in some sketchy prospects who will never make it through training. Which means the company spends 50k for essentially nothing. So with that being said a year 3 FA making as much if not more than an FO with 150k of debt is alarming to say the least.


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Originally Posted by MEGAFUPM (Post 2854697)

50k for 1-2 students that fail per class is nothing when you're saving over $1 million every 2 weeks underpaying your pilots

Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2854700)

Yes, very valid point, but what if said sketchy pilots get through and causes severe aircraft perhaps even totals one?





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Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 2856801)

Ok AOC......

Originally Posted by SilentLurker (Post 2857483)

Pilots bringing political partisanship into the flightdeck or a peer to peer pilot group conversation is wacker than crack! Haha!

Originally Posted by SilentLurker (Post 2857483)

Pilots bringing political partisanship into the flightdeck or a peer to peer pilot group conversation is wacker than crack! Haha!

Originally Posted by dera (Post 2857489)

You know it's a going to be a good trip when your CA briefs you with "I don't want politics on the flight deck" followed 20 seconds later by "how these f*cking liberals are destroying this country", and finished with "are you a christian?".

Originally Posted by martyByrde (Post 2857601)

😂. Lemme guess “I always fly by the book” was tossed in there too?