Flow at 9.28 Years
10-04-2019, 06:30 AM
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Flow at 9.28 Years
For all the new hires wanting to come to Envoy for the AA flow-thru agreement, please note the latest ALPA projected flow date for the most junior pilot on property:
Years to American: 9.28 years
Transfer Date: January 2029
You'll have thousands upon thousands of new hires from 2020-2028 above you on the seniority list by the time you would be eligible to crossover... if the flow still exists or isn't metered by the company.
While the new United Aviate program does not have any guarantees, you could at least be in a pipeline to start with United in as little as 2 years. Under the old United Career Path Program, there were pilots at CommutAir going over to UAL in ~2 years. Crazy.
Years to American: 9.28 years
Transfer Date: January 2029
You'll have thousands upon thousands of new hires from 2020-2028 above you on the seniority list by the time you would be eligible to crossover... if the flow still exists or isn't metered by the company.
While the new United Aviate program does not have any guarantees, you could at least be in a pipeline to start with United in as little as 2 years. Under the old United Career Path Program, there were pilots at CommutAir going over to UAL in ~2 years. Crazy.
10-04-2019, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
I dont believe you have to work at a ual feeder either, at least that's how I read it. So envoy pilots should check this out, even at five year flow you will be at ual 3 years sooner taking in the money and seniority.
10-04-2019, 08:37 AM
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So the guys that joined in 2016 would flow per ALPA projection in about 5 years some show 4.9 i believe, how come those guy didnt flow yet? I just checked and it looks like they’re on track to flow in just about the time ALPA is projecting.
Let me put it this way, if you flow a few months quicker than ALPA projection, that’s realistic. I do not believe someone showing 7+ years to flow would flow in 5.5 or 6.
Let me put it this way, if you flow a few months quicker than ALPA projection, that’s realistic. I do not believe someone showing 7+ years to flow would flow in 5.5 or 6.
10-04-2019, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Chato
So the guys that joined in 2016 would flow per ALPA projection in about 5 years some show 4.9 i believe, how come those guy didnt flow yet? I just checked and it looks like they’re on track to flow in just about the time ALPA is projecting.
Let me put it this way, if you flow a few months quicker than ALPA projection, that’s realistic. I do not believe someone showing 7+ years to flow would flow in 5.5 or 6.
Let me put it this way, if you flow a few months quicker than ALPA projection, that’s realistic. I do not believe someone showing 7+ years to flow would flow in 5.5 or 6.
As far as what the future holds, FIIK.
10-04-2019, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Houpilot2001
Well, 2016 + 5 years =2020/21... that's why they havent flowed yet.
10-04-2019, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
Well if you listen to dfw regarding pay raise retro loa, the increased flow for the PPP cant happen because it's not in the contract yet.
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