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12-10-2019, 11:41 AM
#11
In a land of unicorns
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Originally Posted by Varsity
The 145 fleet is twice the size of the 175 fleet. It needs twice the pilots, including twice the new hire F/O's.
Right now it's 69 E75s v. 105 E140/145s, predicted to be 75 v. 102 in March.
12-11-2019, 01:52 AM
#12
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Joined APC: May 2017
Position: 175 CA
Posts: 1,285
Originally Posted by dera
It's nowhere near twice the size.
Right now it's 69 E75s v. 105 E140/145s, predicted to be 75 v. 102 in March.
Right now it's 69 E75s v. 105 E140/145s, predicted to be 75 v. 102 in March.
Look at where the large RJ payband stops. It’s not that low for a reason, 175 staffing is less pilots per airplane.
02-01-2020, 03:43 PM
#14
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Joined APC: May 2016
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Originally Posted by Varsity
Considering the staffing requirements for 4 bases and the type of flying the 145 does, the pilot group is easily twice the size of the 175.
Look at where the large RJ payband stops. It’s not that low for a reason, 175 staffing is less pilots per airplane.
Look at where the large RJ payband stops. It’s not that low for a reason, 175 staffing is less pilots per airplane.
y’all both make good points about staffing requirements 145 v 175. I just looked up the vacation blocks for both fleets and it’s 17 (145) to 11 (175) for the first week of 2020. The company offered a 60/40 split on vacation which leads me to think there are more 175 pilots than one might expect. I know it’s a crude method but I’m lazy and don’t care too much about who is right.
02-03-2020, 06:30 AM
#15
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Joined APC: Feb 2018
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Of course they need more staffing for the 145s. They do more cycles for the same number of hours, and any time you touch the ground there's a greatly increased chance for issues.
I'd still say that what they do is overkill. People in my class who got 175 Chicago were off reserve the next month after IOE - some of the 145 guys were still on reserve after bidding to Dallas, 16 months later.
I'd still say that what they do is overkill. People in my class who got 175 Chicago were off reserve the next month after IOE - some of the 145 guys were still on reserve after bidding to Dallas, 16 months later.
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