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THKooj 12-25-2019 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by deraa (Post 2945002)
It’s unfortunate how many well qualified applicants are being rejected by our selection team. It seems as if they are targeting folks with a 4 year degree and turbine experience. However, Envoy is known for becoming very picky and then very desperate. Give it until Q2 of next year and we will start hiring everyone and anyone again. The big 3 are looking to hire 1,000 plus each next year, not to mention LCCs and ULCCs.

Doesn't quite work that way. Folks getting hired have to meet AA standards and from there only the most qualified are selected. Not to worry. The line to get in for pipeline guys is long and only getting longer. No shortage of applicants. Just have to hire AA pilots.

CLE to IAH 12-25-2019 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 2945012)
Doesn't quite work that way. Folks getting hired have to meet AA standards and from there only the most qualified are selected. Not to worry. The line to get in for pipeline guys is long and only getting longer. No shortage of applicants. Just have to hire AA pilots.

Now I’m wondering how I got hired. Must have slipped through the cracks LOL

MD-11Loader 12-25-2019 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 2944836)
Merry Christmas folks.

Wow, what a banner year at Envoy. The flow engine is now fully spooled and humming like a Shelby Cobra. On the other end, Envoy is inundated with pipeline candidates just clamoring for their chance to get in the door. It is very competitive and unfortunately there is a long waiting list. 2020 is going to be incredible. It’s truly the best time ever at Envoy. This isn’t your Dad’s “American Eagle.” This is Envoy which far and away blows away anything of that former shell. Where else can you hire on to a major airline as a pipeline candidate? Nowhere is the answer. That’s why the qualifications and interview are so tough.

Fun fact, the flow shrinks by 9 per month in two weeks and after the L10-11’s are gone will be based on a ratio which given the current staffing numbers will never get above 21 per month. So please tell me again how you and your fellow Kool-Aide drinkers are going to sell the flow to aspiring cadets. So your Shelby Cobra is about to be downgraded to a Escort LX wagon.

dera 12-25-2019 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by ENH017 (Post 2944958)
LAX base unconfirmed :(

It was unconfirmed a while ago.

dera 12-25-2019 01:26 PM

The one thing that is humming like a Shelby Cobra is outside attrition, especially in the more senior group of pilots. Something that hasn't been happening until now.
Another 2 sub-900 numbers left their notice a few days ago.

Cyio 12-25-2019 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by ENH017 (Post 2944958)
LAX base unconfirmed :(

Huh? How did you get that from the quoted text?

rld1k 12-25-2019 02:09 PM

20/mo flow is unacceptable. Gotta pump those numbers up.

LowvalueFO 12-25-2019 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by MD-11Loader (Post 2945048)
Fun fact, the flow shrinks by 9 per month in two weeks and after the L10-11’s are gone will be based on a ratio which given the current staffing numbers will never get above 21 per month. So please tell me again how you and your fellow Kool-Aide drinkers are going to sell the flow to aspiring cadets. So your Shelby Cobra is about to be downgraded to a Escort LX wagon.

THAT right there, plain and simple, let that sink in.

pitchattitude 12-25-2019 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by MD-11Loader (Post 2945048)
Fun fact, the flow shrinks by 9 per month in two weeks and after the L10-11’s are gone will be based on a ratio which given the current staffing numbers will never get above 21 per month. So please tell me again how you and your fellow Kool-Aide drinkers are going to sell the flow to aspiring cadets. So your Shelby Cobra is about to be downgraded to a Escort LX wagon.

But the company keeps promoting sub six year flow for new hires.

UncreativeUser 12-25-2019 03:34 PM

We lose about 40-55 people per month right now so that’ll prolly drop to what, 30-45? That’s what I’m thinking since the flow is going from 29 to 20.


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