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Cyio 12-28-2019 06:38 AM
Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 2946275)
You've had a huge shift in the way you view your job. When you initially started posting here, you were extremely pro company and it has degraded ever since. I've noticed that you applied to Spirit in another thread. Looks like you've officially hit rock bottom in applying to a carrier that essentially is on par with Mesa. Dude, you have a job at American Airlines. What in the world HAPPENED to you?
Is this cr700 on an alt account? Every post you make causes me to believe it even more.

Chato 12-28-2019 07:19 AM
Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 2946275)
You've had a huge shift in the way you view your job. When you initially started posting here, you were extremely pro company and it has degraded ever since. I've noticed that you applied to Spirit in another thread. Looks like you've officially hit rock bottom in applying to a carrier that essentially is on par with Mesa. Dude, you have a job at American Airlines. What in the world HAPPENED to you?
Hmmm cr is that you? Perhaps even management is aware it’s not a 5 year flow

dera 12-28-2019 08:12 AM
Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 2946275)
You've had a huge shift in the way you view your job. When you initially started posting here, you were extremely pro company and it has degraded ever since. I've noticed that you applied to Spirit in another thread. Looks like you've officially hit rock bottom in applying to a carrier that essentially is on par with Mesa. Dude, you have a job at American Airlines. What in the world HAPPENED to you?
I'm still happy here. I fly a lot, I make good money, and I live in base.
I have a job realistically, at AA, in 6 years. That is after most of the hiring wave has passed, so I would be stuck at the bottom for a long time. I'm not 22 years old. I have a time constraint that steers my decisions.
I'm nowhere near rock bottom.
Getting hired somewhere outside the flow has been my plan all along. Spirit would be a great place to hang my hat. DFW base, great QOL, and good pay. Comparing them to Mesa is a joke.

Varsity 12-28-2019 08:30 AM
Originally Posted by dera (Post 2946383)
I'm still happy here. I fly a lot, I make good money, and I live in base.
I have a job realistically, at AA, in 6 years. That is after most of the hiring wave has passed, so I would be stuck at the bottom for a long time. I'm not 22 years old. I have a time constraint that steers my decisions.
I'm nowhere near rock bottom.
Getting hired somewhere outside the flow has been my plan all along. Spirit would be a great place to hang my hat. DFW base, great QOL, and good pay. Comparing them to Mesa is a joke.
Spirit crews are great. Brand new airplanes, expansion, good routes, good pay, good schedules. Not a mesa type operation in the slightest.

:eek: did I just agree with dera?

Cujo665 12-28-2019 08:35 AM
Originally Posted by AeroEnvoy (Post 2944906)
Dacuj made his way out of Talk Airline and into APC
and he’s still playing on variations of my screen name....

Cujo665 12-28-2019 08:43 AM
Originally Posted by dera (Post 2946383)
I'm still happy here. I fly a lot, I make good money, and I live in base.
I have a job realistically, at AA, in 6 years. That is after most of the hiring wave has passed, so I would be stuck at the bottom for a long time. I'm not 22 years old. I have a time constraint that steers my decisions.
I'm nowhere near rock bottom.
Getting hired somewhere outside the flow has been my plan all along. Spirit would be a great place to hang my hat. DFW base, great QOL, and good pay. Comparing them to Mesa is a joke.
Very reasonable thinking.... unlike the Koolaid drinker.

UncreativeUser 12-28-2019 02:02 PM
Depart Envoy Arrive American
 
What do y’all think, is spirit a good option if you’re under 28-30?


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Cyio 12-28-2019 02:30 PM
Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2946585)
What do y’all think, is spirit a good option if you’re under 28-30?


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Yes. Good contract, very new fleet with I think 80 planes on order, decent bases and good pay. Company is fiscally responsible.

The two downsides in my opinion are it’s seems to be a pretty young pilot groups so fewer retirements and no long international. Those vary based on age and desires though.

highfarfast 12-28-2019 03:03 PM
Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2946585)
What do y’all think, is spirit a good option if you’re under 28-30?


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I keep hearing the worst thing about working for Spirit is telling people you work for Spirit. Doesn't sound bad at all to me.

ninerdriver 12-28-2019 04:04 PM
Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2946585)
What do y’all think, is spirit a good option if you’re under 28-30?


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You'd make a ton of money, and you'd retire super senior. You wouldn't have to worry about flowing back to Envoy once AA runs out of money.

Yeah, it's only a ton of money, not a crap ton. Still sounds like a win to me.


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