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#61
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I can almost guarantee anyone retiring with $4mil in the bank is not regretting the fact that he doesn't have $5mil.
#62
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Absolutely. Spirit is a good gig with some awesome QOL items going on for them. But make no mistake, there is big money to be made at AA. There are an insane amount of retirements on the horizon. And we have more than a few guys making over half a million a year. And we have plenty of guys making big money being home as much as possible. Either way, you can't go wrong. You want ultimate QOL, go to Spirit. You want less QOL and big money, go AA. Just depends on what you're after.
#63
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From: 175 CA
Absolutely. Spirit is a good gig with some awesome QOL items going on for them. But make no mistake, there is big money to be made at AA. There are an insane amount of retirements on the horizon. And we have more than a few guys making over half a million a year. And we have plenty of guys making big money being home as much as possible. Either way, you can't go wrong. You want ultimate QOL, go to Spirit. You want less QOL and big money, go AA. Just depends on what you're after.
AA's old guard is so obsessed with pay rates the company hood winks them on soft pay and QOL.
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Absolutely. Spirit is a good gig with some awesome QOL items going on for them. But make no mistake, there is big money to be made at AA. There are an insane amount of retirements on the horizon. And we have more than a few guys making over half a million a year. And we have plenty of guys making big money being home as much as possible. Either way, you can't go wrong. You want ultimate QOL, go to Spirit. You want less QOL and big money, go AA. Just depends on what you're after.
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Absolutely. Spirit is a good gig with some awesome QOL items going on for them. But make no mistake, there is big money to be made at AA. There are an insane amount of retirements on the horizon. And we have more than a few guys making over half a million a year. And we have plenty of guys making big money being home as much as possible. Either way, you can't go wrong. You want ultimate QOL, go to Spirit. You want less QOL and big money, go AA. Just depends on what you're after.
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You've got it partially right. There is big money to be made at AA. The whole argument about going to Spirit is absurd when you have the opportunity to fly for AA. Unless you don't have a degree, have checkride failures or skeletons in the closet. Those are 99% of your hires at Spirit and they wouldn't cut it at an Envoy interview.
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Is there any way that Spirit will still be in business in 7 years from now?
If you think so, then you really need to look at the history of this industry. Spirit is a fun place to hang out for a couple years, but there is absolutely zero chance that they will be in business 10 years from now.
If you think so, then you really need to look at the history of this industry. Spirit is a fun place to hang out for a couple years, but there is absolutely zero chance that they will be in business 10 years from now.
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You've got it partially right. There is big money to be made at AA. The whole argument about going to Spirit is absurd when you have the opportunity to fly for AA. Unless you don't have a degree, have checkride failures or skeletons in the closet. Those are 99% of your hires at Spirit and they wouldn't cut it at an Envoy interview.
#69
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Is there any way that Spirit will still be in business in 7 years from now?
If you think so, then you really need to look at the history of this industry. Spirit is a fun place to hang out for a couple years, but there is absolutely zero chance that they will be in business 10 years from now.
If you think so, then you really need to look at the history of this industry. Spirit is a fun place to hang out for a couple years, but there is absolutely zero chance that they will be in business 10 years from now.
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More likely buys aa assets while aag is in bankruptcy.
Only 2 airlines have made money every day since Sept 1st 2001, that's spirit and southwest.
Aa will be in bk court 2021 but no later than 2022,.
Just an opinion.
Only 2 airlines have made money every day since Sept 1st 2001, that's spirit and southwest.
Aa will be in bk court 2021 but no later than 2022,.
Just an opinion.
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