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Old 12-29-2019 | 12:40 PM
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I hate to say it, but IF AA is indeed showing up Spirit, it is because AA is now chasing the same customers because the AA product has deteriorated.

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Old 12-29-2019 | 01:27 PM
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You have jumped the shark. People don’t take you seriously because you are so far off base and transparent. Throwing out statements like above only makes it seem like you can’t be objective.

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Old 12-29-2019 | 02:20 PM
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A CA with less than 2 years to flow just left his notice. He is going to Spirit.
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Old 12-29-2019 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
You have jumped the shark. People don’t take you seriously because you are so far off base and transparent. Throwing out statements like above only makes it seem like you can’t be objective.
It’s sad that he needs to create a new screen name to preach the same way he did on the other. The tone doesn't change.
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Old 12-29-2019 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by THKooj
The whole argument about going to Spirit is absurd when you have the opportunity to fly for AA.
Didn't you say before that being hired at Envoy was the same as being hired at American? How did that turn into "the opportunity to fly for AA"? Is it guaranteed or not?
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Old 12-30-2019 | 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Slow2Final
Didn't you say before that being hired at Envoy was the same as being hired at American? How did that turn into "the opportunity to fly for AA"? Is it guaranteed or not?
Thanks for calling me out on this. I just worded it wrong. You are absolutely AA from Day One. And everything else I said still stands. You've got to have something wrong upstairs to work for a lowball type operator like Spirit when you are already AA.
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Old 12-30-2019 | 06:46 AM
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It must be weird living in a world where it’s worth arguing about whether or not we work at AA when we’re still cashing baby sized checks and putting up with crappy work rules lol
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Old 12-30-2019 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by THKooj
Thanks for calling me out on this. I just worded it wrong. You are absolutely AA from Day One. And everything else I said still stands. You've got to have something wrong upstairs to work for a lowball type operator like Spirit when you are already AA.
You are absolutely DELUSIONAL if you think being hired at a wholly owned is “AA from day one.” Your medical needs to be pulled for psych reasons.
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Old 12-30-2019 | 10:56 AM
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For the record, our work rules are actually better in some areas than AA (i.e if we are removed/ misconnected during sequence and resume mid sequence, than we just resume it and fly as usual. AA puts you on reserve if you misconnect)


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Old 12-31-2019 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Varsity
Disagree. AA's soft pay rules are probably the worst in the industry, worse than spirit. All open time at Spirit is 200%, pay protection, great rigs.

AA's old guard is so obsessed with pay rates the company hood winks them on soft pay and QOL.
While I agree that there is work that needs to be done in the contract negotiations ongoing right now regarding soft pay and QOL (more so QOL), you have no idea what kind of income AA pilots are making. You can work the system and make money. We have narrowbody FOs with just a couple of years on property making over $200k or more. We have plenty of CAs making $3-400k+ a year. And the cream of the crop widebody CAs who really work it making well north of half a mil a year. Again, not taking anything away from Spirit. Great gig. Awesome QOL for those guys and still great pay. But there is a ton of money at AA to be had. But if you'd like to educate me on our contract further, by all means...
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