Envoy vs Sun Country
01-06-2020 | 01:13 PM
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Thoughts on Envoy vs Sun Country
Currently i'm about a 3 hour drive from DFW (but have regional service to DFW). I have offers from ExpressJet, Skywest, Envoy, Atlas (maybe ABX and ATI with pending interviews), and Sun Country.
For now a commute is inevitable for all...but Envoy could get me closest to home during training. So really the question I have is; how long should it take to have DFW basing--hope for DFW out of training and if not go get the 73 type and fly for Sun Country for awhile?? 76 or 74 type at the ACMI's? But, Atlas' $1600/mo training pay is a joke and the other ACMI's 16/17 on 13/14 off doesn't present the best QoL...but is it better or worse than regional flying (I know many factors influence this for each of us personally though).
I have competitive numbers for the majors (4000 TT/2000 PIC military flying, clean background, and been available for the last 2 months) but just can't seem to find the phone ringing with one of them on the other end (apps only been in 2-4 months though)). I read a lot how my background shouldn't need more than a touch and go somewhere outside of the majors...or if at all, but it is what it is and it comes down to this; the last paycheck came at the end of last month with the flight hours ~5 months ago...so I need a paycheck, recency and ready to start getting some 121 experience!
TIA for ideas and opinions...open to it all.
Currently i'm about a 3 hour drive from DFW (but have regional service to DFW). I have offers from ExpressJet, Skywest, Envoy, Atlas (maybe ABX and ATI with pending interviews), and Sun Country.
For now a commute is inevitable for all...but Envoy could get me closest to home during training. So really the question I have is; how long should it take to have DFW basing--hope for DFW out of training and if not go get the 73 type and fly for Sun Country for awhile?? 76 or 74 type at the ACMI's? But, Atlas' $1600/mo training pay is a joke and the other ACMI's 16/17 on 13/14 off doesn't present the best QoL...but is it better or worse than regional flying (I know many factors influence this for each of us personally though).
I have competitive numbers for the majors (4000 TT/2000 PIC military flying, clean background, and been available for the last 2 months) but just can't seem to find the phone ringing with one of them on the other end (apps only been in 2-4 months though)). I read a lot how my background shouldn't need more than a touch and go somewhere outside of the majors...or if at all, but it is what it is and it comes down to this; the last paycheck came at the end of last month with the flight hours ~5 months ago...so I need a paycheck, recency and ready to start getting some 121 experience!
TIA for ideas and opinions...open to it all.
I’m not military, but I was a flow through from 4years ago. Recruitment sends us updates every so often. They give us hiring numbers, and mention recommendations help in the selection process quite a bit.
01-06-2020 | 01:31 PM
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You’re at the bottom of the competitive range time wise and have no 121 PIC time. Mil or not that is a issue for legacy’s. Do civ volunteer work get a degree. Legacy’s hire less than 3% off the street without one. Go anywhere to start paying your bills, cut your teeth. Subjective question, objective answer.
Prior mil here also.
Prior mil here also.
07-01-2022 | 06:39 AM
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Envoy Vs Sunny
Do major airlines value more PIC 121 time or being typed in a 737. Got CJO’s from Envoy and Sunny. The pay at Envoy is hard to turn down but the opportunity to fly a 737 is hard to pass too. I’m a low time guy and looking for what would be the best to start my airline career
07-01-2022 | 06:45 AM
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Do major airlines value more PIC 121 time or being typed in a 737. Got CJO’s from Envoy and Sunny. The pay at Envoy is hard to turn down but the opportunity to fly a 737 is hard to pass too. I’m a low time guy and looking for what would be the best to start my airline career
07-01-2022 | 06:48 AM
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Do major airlines value more PIC 121 time or being typed in a 737. Got CJO’s from Envoy and Sunny. The pay at Envoy is hard to turn down but the opportunity to fly a 737 is hard to pass too. I’m a low time guy and looking for what would be the best to start my airline career
What is “low time”?
07-01-2022 | 07:59 AM
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Do major airlines value more PIC 121 time or being typed in a 737. Got CJO’s from Envoy and Sunny. The pay at Envoy is hard to turn down but the opportunity to fly a 737 is hard to pass too. I’m a low time guy and looking for what would be the best to start my airline career
07-01-2022 | 08:04 AM
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Yeah they will pay for the ATP. Just wasn’t sure what a Major is looking for. My end goal is one of the legacies so whatever gets me there fastest is what I’ll go with
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