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01-07-2020 | 11:11 PM
#21
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From: Whale FO
Or if you trade into lower value trips?
Or MA's?
Or sick calls if you have no accrued sick time?
Or if you cancel a flight because of a deferrable MEL item?
Quick fact: No, they don't.
01-07-2020 | 11:28 PM
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If you are removed from a flight because you have a 7 day conflict, or you are approaching a flying hour lookback limit, you still get paid at those other places. If you are removed from a flight because scheduling opted to use a reserve so that the flight wasn't delayed, you still get paid for that flight for it's full value, regardless of what happened with the rest of the sequence.
It's a huge difference.
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01-08-2020 | 04:04 AM
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If you are removed from a flight because you have a 7 day conflict, or you are approaching a flying hour lookback limit, you still get paid at those other places. If you are removed from a flight because scheduling opted to use a reserve so that the flight wasn't delayed, you still get paid for that flight for it's full value, regardless of what happened with the rest of the sequence.
It's a huge difference.
It's a huge difference.
Cancelled, and 12 hours of credit becomes an unscheduled overnight and a 2 hour deadhead? We get paid for 12 hours. Assigned to cover someone else's flying, and 12 hours becomes 15 hours? We get paid for 15 hours.
01-08-2020 | 04:49 AM
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Or a very senior captain possibly lifer, either way a new hire will not see something like this, specially if they get the 145.
01-08-2020 | 05:45 AM
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Those are caused by the pilot.
If you are removed from a flight because you have a 7 day conflict, or you are approaching a flying hour lookback limit, you still get paid at those other places. If you are removed from a flight because scheduling opted to use a reserve so that the flight wasn't delayed, you still get paid for that flight for it's full value, regardless of what happened with the rest of the sequence.
It's a huge difference.
If you are removed from a flight because you have a 7 day conflict, or you are approaching a flying hour lookback limit, you still get paid at those other places. If you are removed from a flight because scheduling opted to use a reserve so that the flight wasn't delayed, you still get paid for that flight for it's full value, regardless of what happened with the rest of the sequence.
It's a huge difference.
Let's go back to what you said.
OT can and is still be offset by deductions. There are even cute little examples shown in section 3
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01-08-2020 | 05:46 AM
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You have to be either a very senior FO who is about to get displaced to the 145 or possibly ORD reserve in the 175, in which case your days off will be reduced to 11 and min credit of 75 AND you’ll be commuting
Or a very senior captain possibly lifer, either way a new hire will not see something like this, specially if they get the 145.
Or a very senior captain possibly lifer, either way a new hire will not see something like this, specially if they get the 145.
01-08-2020 | 05:49 AM
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Yes youre right about that, either way you’d go back to reserve for a while. 11 days off min credit. Or less than 11 days off if u pick up OT
01-08-2020 | 07:33 AM
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I'll give you a hint. Continue reading to the part that says, "If a reserve pilot flies awarded open time on days off and subsequently has a 30-in-7 day conflict in the same calendar month, the amount of flying from which it was necessary to remove the reserve pilot in order to resolve the 30-in-7 day conflict may not be credited above guarantee."
01-08-2020 | 07:29 PM
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Yes, because you read the wrong part of the contract and don't know what you are talking about. There are 660 pages of company friendly caveats...
I'll give you a hint. Continue reading to the part that says, "If a reserve pilot flies awarded open time on days off and subsequently has a 30-in-7 day conflict in the same calendar month, the amount of flying from which it was necessary to remove the reserve pilot in order to resolve the 30-in-7 day conflict may not be credited above guarantee."
I'll give you a hint. Continue reading to the part that says, "If a reserve pilot flies awarded open time on days off and subsequently has a 30-in-7 day conflict in the same calendar month, the amount of flying from which it was necessary to remove the reserve pilot in order to resolve the 30-in-7 day conflict may not be credited above guarantee."
Think how OT is awarded for reserves, and what restrictions they have. How do you think this situation would occur? Pay close attention to the "same calendar month" part. It's pretty important.
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