Actually it is less than 1300 line holders. And a lot of those lines are less than 75 hours. You kids sure seem to have problems counting. The 500 pilot gap is filled by guy in training, loa's, mgmt, instructors, etc.

If you catch a growth wave just right, like you did in DFW on 175 and live local to pick up OT, sure you can get close to 1000 hours in a year. Enjoy the next year on reserve commuting to NY. Just realize that you are the exception. Guys hired ahead of you have just recently started becoming lineholders on the 145. Soon the bottom guy in DFW on the 175 will be like that bottom guy in Miami. All the growth and new deliveries are shifting to ORD. The DFW 175 FO story was good while it lasted, but the music is stopping.

 

I edited my post after you replied to it, we have 646 reserves and 1110 lineholders excluding CMP and RLF.
And no, I won't commute to NY for a year. You sure seem to have problems counting. I'm less than 200 numbers from junior DCE. And I'm still months away from the actual award.

Like I said, I got lucky. You might too. But it's not guaranteed. If you live in base, it's not a bad gig. Likely the best one there is in DFW.

Guys hired a few months after me are lineholders in DFE. Just FYI.

 

I guess you have problems reading, too. I said guys senior to you just recently became lineholders in DFE. There is an ebb and flow as their lineholder status depends on base transfers.

Good luck avoiding New York. Yes, right now, you are within 200 numbers of the DCE plug, but there is a gap between him and most of the guys on the reserve list. With 400+ FOs senior to him, he might get displaced out of DCE. Guys junior to him used to have DCL, until they were displaced. Just FYI.

 

Guys junior to me are lineholders now. They were lineholders in December too. It took them around 10 months to hold a line. And things are about to get a lot better for them, with the 30 NFE-DFE transfers coming up soon.

There is no gap, not sure what you're looking at. Are you looking at DCL or DCE? Bottom of DCE is pretty consistent.
1610 1584 1561 1546 1499 1468 1419... None are displaced.
Where's the gap?

 

Almost 200 numbers to move up 7 places... you don't think that is a gap? In this next award, if only 6 FOs displace to DCE more than the vacancies, you go from 200 away to 400 away. How long is that in terms of flow movement?

 

No, it's not a gap.
200 numbers to move up 7 places, but 400 numbers to move up 14, 600 numbers for 21, and so on. That's a gradient, not a gap.

DCL has a gap, almost 300 numbers between last and second to last, but that's why the junior guys got displaced off it.
And according to you, NCE has a gap too. And that would be impossible because you just promised a year of commuting to NY.

You won't have any FOs displacing to DCE this time round, so your point is moot.

 

I got really unlucky. Missed the 175 in class and got marooned in NYC on the 145 on reserve for over a year, never flying even though I did everything in my power (short of sacrificing my ~7 days a month where I was at home and not commuting, to pick up OT) to fly. I closed out my first 12 months with less than 200 hrs. Things are probably better now.

 

I'm giving you pearls of wisdom, and you are arguing over semantics... gradient, gap, whatever.

The point is that there is a lot of room above the junior guys on the DCE seniority list. They don't even become lineholders until they reach 3 digit seniority numbers. In that space are plenty of guys who would prefer to be Dallas based, but are either in ORD, LGA, or are currently FOs. The more guys like that in that space, the greater the chance that the bottom DCE guys get displaced, or face perpetual airport standby. There are even junior guys on the DCL list moving to DCE. Nobody on the DCE list is waiting to go to ORD or LGA to create more vacancies.

Anyway, I never promised you a year of reserve on the NCE list. I'm just hoping that happens as karma for all the rudeness and petty arguments you've been posting here.

 

I feel like a complete idiot when you to start arguing because your abilities to work decs far exceeds mine. 😂😂😂

 

going back to the OP...
Ord 145 reserve time is around 9-10 months for FO’s right now. It appears that it’s taking FO’s around 2 years to get their 1000 hours to upgrade. Obviously this varies, but that appears to be the average based on my subjective experience.