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dera 01-21-2020 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2961422)
Not all captains. Only new captains. If you were previously qualified as an Envoy captain (passed Fed ride), you only get 25 hours.

True. Forgot to add "new" in there.
50 hours for "Any pilot upgrading to a Captain status".

LowvalueFO 01-21-2020 05:21 PM

Recruiting will have the answer for him.

pitchattitude 01-21-2020 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by LowvalueFO (Post 2961431)
Recruiting will have the answer for him.

Yes. And make sure any employment offer you sign has the info in it. I have heard that in the past it varied widely what people got.

paulhood 01-21-2020 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by LowvalueFO (Post 2961413)
As a direct entry captain, you start right away with the captain's pay rate during training. The current sign-on bonus is 50K.
You will do CBT's, Groundschool then your ORAL which you have to pass before you go to the Simulator training.
Once you pass your type ride, you get signed off for IOE. I believe its currently 50 hours for direct entry captains, not sure what it is for the near entry guys as they start out as FO.

Verify with recruiting the pay rates as I am not sure if the near entry guys get paid FO or CA pay.

As previously said, be aware that you are looking at about 3 years plus of reserve time, make sure the sign-on bonus is worth it, they don't pay that out of kindness.

New York and Chicago will be your only option for a while, DFW and MIA will be out of reach for quite some time.

Hope this helps.

Is Envoy taking DECs again?

TheGpilot 01-21-2020 08:06 PM

I have 500 hrs part 121 in another company and going to start soon as a near entry captain, if I get the 175 ( in case there are not too much cadets) am I still going to be displaced as soon as I get the 1000 hours part 121? Or am I going to have a seat lock position? Is there any advice before doing the move?

btw the bonus is 23k starting 8k after training and 10k after the year so far

BigZ 01-21-2020 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by TheGpilot (Post 2961533)
I have 500 hrs part 121 in another company and going to start soon as a near entry captain, if I get the 175 ( in case there are not too much cadets) am I still going to be displaced as soon as I get the 1000 hours part 121? Or am I going to have a seat lock position? Is there any advice before doing the move?

btw the bonus is 23k starting 8k after training and 10k after the year so far

you will get displaced to whatever your seniority can hold at that time - 145 CA in ORD or LGA most likely. Displacement doesn't come with a seat lock, so you could bid over to 175 at some point.
The FO seat lock is eternal unless you upgrade or get displaced - so no, they will bump you off of the 175, training costs be damned.

TheGpilot 01-21-2020 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by BigZ (Post 2961541)
you will get displaced to whatever your seniority can hold at that time - 145 CA in ORD or LGA most likely. Displacement doesn't come with a seat lock, so you could bid over to 175 at some point.
The FO seat lock is eternal unless you upgrade or get displaced - so no, they will bump you off of the 175, training costs be damned.

how long it takes to get Miami as an E145 F.O and E145 captain?

Cyio 01-22-2020 03:10 AM


Originally Posted by TheGpilot (Post 2961549)
how long it takes to get Miami as an E145 F.O and E145 captain?

If memory serves, Captain will be a few years. It is our senior 145 base. FO maybe a year or so.

BigZ 01-22-2020 04:17 AM


Originally Posted by TheGpilot (Post 2961549)
how long it takes to get Miami as an E145 F.O and E145 captain?

it varies
Last bid 2.5ish yrs CA got bumped out to NY, then recently CA were TDY'd to MIA to cover flying. But at any rate, it is a small base. Ask again in 3 weeks, a quarterly bid will close and the results will be up.

YLpilot 01-22-2020 04:21 AM


Originally Posted by TheGpilot (Post 2961549)
how long it takes to get Miami as an E145 F.O and E145 captain?

6ish months for FO, 2.5 years for CA


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