They don’t have to. The legacy, LCC and ACMI demand is slowly killing the regional outsourced model. They won’t expend capital to get what they can sit back and watch happen.

It’s not just the pilots... it’s the FA’s, mechanics, and all the office staff, ground support, management and training staff.

Curiosity
 

I was given a CJO at Envoy in January 2016, and passed up an April class date for a job at Compass. I have since moved on to my dream job. I am curious though...I was told it would be roughly 4.5 years to flow in my interview, meaning I would be headed to AAL in a few months provided the recruiters weren't lying or flat out wrong. This of course does not seem to be the case.

How far off were they?

You probably would've gone in 1Q 2021, assuming the flow keeps moving apace. Many 2016 hires are actually experiencing better projected flow times than recruiters promised because of how things shaped up, with peak ez mode occuring for June-ish '16 DOH.

4.8ish years to flow ..... so they were off a couple months.

Sounds like you would’ve been in my class. Hired April 25, 2016, expected flow date currently Feb 1, 2021. Was originally October or November 2021 ~3 years ago when I discovered the interactive seniority list.

Bravo sir. It's nice when someone tells the truth on here. You are exactly correct. The projections were and are correct.

I don’t think anyone here has said that there wouldn’t be a select band to get that five year flow. It’s what happens after this group that is the point of contention. Latest union list has people out too 8 or 9 years now for a new hire.

I can’t last another 6 months longer here with these horse manure work rules, pay and QOL issues and you are talking about hanging here another 5 years in this job market. Bravo Sir! Jones Town... Cool Aid... Keep on drinking....

Yup. I wish you would start telling the truth!!

The flow is a very nice thing to have 5.5 years or not