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dera 04-17-2020 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by Tyrion (Post 3034786)
Kind of a wash... under our reserve rules he gets placed back into RAP and can be called back in 4 hours later. At least with the OSO, he will be released in 4 hours. Also, only applies during OSO, which makes the situation pretty convoluted and rare. Compared to the multitude of other things that occur to make reserve life miserable, this one is not so bad. Is that all you got?

Oh wait, you never really dealt with sitting on reserve... so you really don't know what you are talking about. Bye!

Like I said, if you don't want to talk to the guys who know the rules, why bother engaging you in any further conversation. Go argue about facemasks on fb.

Tyrion 04-17-2020 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3034793)
Like I said, if you don't want to talk to the guys who Ignore the rules, why bother engaging you in any further conversation. Go argue about facemasks on fb.

Fixed it for you.

You are probably on the contract compliance committee... that would explain a lot. God help this pilot group if that is the case.

highfarfast 04-17-2020 07:36 PM

Tyrion, I decided to not engage in further discussion when I did because I've been down this road before with union contract compliance (previous one's that have now flowed). You are right, the contract says what it says. But the union will tell you it doesn't matter "that's just the way it is". And yes, it's very frustrating when you get told that while reading was is very black and white in the CBA and you realize the union does not, in fact, have your back.

dera 04-18-2020 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3034859)
Tyrion, I decided to not engage in further discussion when I did because I've been down this road before with union contract compliance (previous one's that have now flowed). You are right, the contract says what it says. But the union will tell you it doesn't matter "that's just the way it is". And yes, it's very frustrating when you get told that while reading was is very black and white in the CBA and you realize the union does not, in fact, have your back.

Show me where it says it in black and white.
And define what you mean by "irregularity".

highfarfast 04-18-2020 07:19 PM

dera, the "black and white" has been covered well enough. I'm not going to rehash it now. The "irregularity", I'm not sure what you're asking.

dera 04-19-2020 12:32 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3035594)
dera, the "black and white" has been covered well enough. I'm not going to rehash it now. The "irregularity", I'm not sure what you're asking.

So you are saying there is no contractual language that provides for a hotel in domicile after appropriation.
We can agree with that.

highfarfast 04-19-2020 02:31 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3035676)
So you are saying there is no contractual language that provides for a hotel in domicile after appropriation.
We can agree with that.

Don't put words in my mouth. I never said any such thing and you know it.

dera 04-19-2020 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3035688)
Don't put words in my mouth. I never said any such thing and you know it.

I was just trying to see if you had actually read the part of the contract that refers to those hotel rooms.

When they block booked hotel rooms in domiciles, they were much more willing to give them out to pilots. Now that they book them one by one, they won't even give a room for out of base OT pickups.

MqWhistleblower 04-19-2020 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3035937)

When they block booked hotel rooms in domiciles, they were much more willing to give them out to pilots. Now that they book them one by one, they won't even give a room for out of base OT pickups.

dera, I don’t think that’s a true statement. I flew OT out of base and they gave me a hotel. I have another OT trip next week, hopefully they don’t come with bs

dera 04-19-2020 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by MqWhistleblower (Post 3036210)
dera, I don’t think that’s a true statement. I flew OT out of base and they gave me a hotel. I have another OT trip next week, hopefully they don’t come with bs

I used to do it all the time as well. Now they have been denying it for people who live in their domicile.
If you commute to your base, you can use your commuter hotels if you pick up OT from other bases too. If you are not a commuter, they have been denying those hotels lately. The LOA unfortunately defines a commuter as someone who lives more than 50 miles from their domicile, and there's nothing (unless its CC) that allows you to use commuter hotels if you are not a commuter.
So, just to clarify - you can still use commuter hotels, if you are a commuter, for out of base pickups. But if you are not a commuter, you can't.


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