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havick206 04-15-2020 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by MqWhistleblower (Post 3033123)
Ok, so you are saying that it’s not the union’s job to educate the pilot group? What’s their job then? Educate me.

For the record- if you go to the cpo they will tell you to look up on my envoy air. All information needed is there

You mean like the new hire guide made by the union and the wiki contract page they put together?

uavking 04-16-2020 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by Sasquatched (Post 3033235)
So yesterday I attempted to pick up a turn using the template under Crew Scheduling on my.envoyair.com. It was a full trip. This morning I got a HI6 from CS saying the pick up has been denied, “must use the automated TTOT system.” What does this mean? If I would’ve used DECS and sent the RF 100 FULL it would’ve went through automatically and I would’ve got it? Instead they find a reason not to give it to me?

It means that full trip pickups must be attempted in DECS first (nothing new; QT just did the typing for you).

Use HIY to access TTOT and follow the prompts. Once you're done, HIN will turn off TTOT before you log out of DECS. You can look at your receipts in QT for a sample flow, or refer to page 45 in the union new hire guide for an example.

highfarfast 04-16-2020 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by uavking (Post 3033441)
It means that full trip pickups must be attempted in DECS first (nothing new; QT just did the typing for you).

Use HIY to access TTOT and follow the prompts. Once you're done, HIN will turn off TTOT before you log out of DECS. You can look at your receipts in QT for a sample flow, or refer to page 45 in the union new hire guide for an example.

Just wanted to add: Full trips via ATTOT will not work if your adding a full trip to a trip you already have. You still use the full trip RF form that says to only use ATTOT but every time I've done that, they processed the trip correctly (and given it to me if it fell to my senority) despite the message. OH! and I think that's the one where you have to copy and paste the form into email, so not really RF.

dera 04-16-2020 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3033490)
Just wanted to add: Full trips via ATTOT will not work if your adding a full trip to a trip you already have. You still use the full trip RF form that says to only use ATTOT but every time I've done that, they processed the trip correctly (and given it to me if it fell to my senority) despite the message. OH! and I think that's the one where you have to copy and paste the form into email, so not really RF.

The easiest way to send RF OT requests is through myenvoyair.com

highfarfast 04-16-2020 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3033705)
The easiest way to send RF OT requests is through myenvoyair.com

I've looked at it. I find the RF requests in DECS easier. That may be a matter of that's what I learned first but I don't find the way the OT part of the website to be laid out every well, makes it somewhat clumsy.

dera 04-16-2020 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3033714)
I've looked at it. I find the RF requests in DECS easier. That may be a matter of that's what I learned first but I don't find the way the OT part of the website to be laid out every well, makes it somewhat clumsy.

That way you don't have to calculate your 30 hour rest blocks. That makes it easier especially if you're trying to wedge some stuff in your current sequences.

highfarfast 04-16-2020 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3033743)
That way you don't have to calculate your 30 hour rest blocks. That makes it easier especially if you're trying to wedge some stuff in your current sequences.

Eeeehhhh, that aint hard. Begining of trip (or earlier one if jamming together) minus six hours minus one day, end of trip (or later one if jamming one together) plus six hours plus one day.

dera 04-16-2020 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3033758)
Eeeehhhh, that aint hard. Begining of trip (or earlier one if jamming together) minus six hours minus one day, end of trip (or later one if jamming one together) plus six hours plus one day.

Or just send out a message for every single 5+ hour day turn and let them figure it out :)
It's not hard, just a bit time consuming. I have the OT link bookmarked. Only need the seq nr, value and start date and its good to go.

dera 04-16-2020 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by MqWhistleblower (Post 3032850)
Keep in mind, if an overnight is taken away from your schedule you are still eligible for a hotel in base.

Got a contractual reference for that?
FYI: The one you're looking at in 11.E is for lineholders, not reserves.

highfarfast 04-16-2020 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3033933)
Got a contractual reference for that?
FYI: The one you're looking at in 11.E is for lineholders, not reserves.

Well, THAT would be a new interpretation of the contract not consistent with years of precedence. Is this the new company line that our wondrous union is accepting?


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