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Voski 04-14-2020 04:12 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3031256)
Envoy is the only regional (I don't have Silvers contract so if they have it, so be it) with unlimited OT, with appropriation, and everything paying premium, and where CS can not withhold any unassigned sequences or assign them in advance outside the proffering window to reserves.

Like I said. Industry leading. One of the few things in our contract that are that.

It'll probably go away in the upcoming AAG Ch. 11 bankruptcy.

MqWhistleblower 04-15-2020 12:14 PM

So, the union turns down the OT LOA. Now, they send an email, talking about how pilots can put themselves back in the return list. Therefore pilots aren’t going to be allowed to appropriate flights. Keep in mind, if an overnight is taken away from your schedule you are still eligible for a hotel in base.

dera 04-15-2020 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by MqWhistleblower (Post 3032850)
So, the union turns down the OT LOA. Now, they send an email, talking about how pilots can put themselves back in the return list. Therefore pilots aren’t going to be allowed to appropriate flights. Keep in mind, if an overnight is taken away from your schedule you are still eligible for a hotel in base.

The important part of that email is the OT volunteer list. Everyone should get on that list.

acip 04-15-2020 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3032873)
The important part of that email is the OT volunteer list. Everyone should get on that list.

Hopefully others will have better luck than I did with the volunteer list. Whenever I put myself on that list in the past, CS would never call. I am not sure they even look at it, plus there’s never more than 5 pilots on it anyway.

dera 04-15-2020 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by acip (Post 3032882)
Hopefully others will have better luck than I did with the volunteer list. Whenever I put myself on that list in the past, CS would never call. I am not sure they even look at it, plus there’s never more than 5 pilots on it anyway.

That's the best deal if they don't call you.
Get paid to sit at home. Win.

ClappedOut145 04-15-2020 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by acip (Post 3032882)
Hopefully others will have better luck than I did with the volunteer list. Whenever I put myself on that list in the past, CS would never call. I am not sure they even look at it, plus there’s never more than 5 pilots on it anyway.

That's when you watch trips drop into open time, get assigned to a reserve, and then you file a dispute.

MqWhistleblower 04-15-2020 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3032873)
The important part of that email is the OT volunteer list. Everyone should get on that list.

I put myself on the volunteer list all the time and CS never calls me. Now with QT being gone is really hard to keep track when a trip opened up.

Once again, we got played by the company- in a bunch of aspects, and now the union is supporting people to put themselves on the return list, therefore people won’t be able to appropriate flying.

With all due respect, whoever wrote that email didn’t think very well.

I still stand in unity!

acip 04-15-2020 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3032891)
That's the best deal if they don't call you.
Get paid to sit at home. Win.

Are you referring to the OT volunteer list? I thought you only get paid if they call you and you accept flying?

rld1k 04-15-2020 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3032893)
That's when you watch trips drop into open time, get assigned to a reserve, and then you file a dispute.

for what? You don't get paid to fly on reserve so you don't have any damages to be made whole. Not to mention I don't think they are even obligated to assign to the turn back list first

NoValueAviator 04-15-2020 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by MqWhistleblower (Post 3032850)
So, the union turns down the OT LOA. Now, they send an email, talking about how pilots can put themselves back in the return list. Therefore pilots aren’t going to be allowed to appropriate flights. Keep in mind, if an overnight is taken away from your schedule you are still eligible for a hotel in base.

Yeah, they really shouldn’t be saying or doing anything that might inadvertently help the company. It’s enough to fly the book right now and focus on safety, considering the maximum sleaze QuickTrade kill, and the bait and switch CSLOA. Ideally, they’d be publishing PF keys or something that the less savvy or motivated among us can copy-paste to search for and pick up big $$$ OT.

If this management had a button to kill us all and replace us with similar pilots, they’d press it just for laughs. I’m sure they’ll furlough the maximum number of crew members they can without destroying the operation completely in October.


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