No More Quicktrade
 

And just like that...

I cant possibly see how this will help them. Guess our reserve pilots need to get ready to start working because I couldn't pick up a trip through decs to save my life lol. I know they are ****ed about not signing that LOA for open time, but this is another low blow.

Oh well, I still think it will hurt them more then us.

Yeah, I kinda see this as their way of 'withholding open time' and I DO find it annoying for sure, but I may benefit from it... I already know how to do the FOS commands so maybe a bit more OT will fall my way now and I was expecting OT to more or less dry up very soon.

Time to overload CS with bogus RFs

oh yeah tons of additional
phone calls too

The last one to leave turn out the lights

I’m going to pick up a turn in honor of our fallen app.

Looks like it's not even letting me sign in through Quicktrade to have a look at OT. Yeah, this is definitely a move to essentially withhold OT.

Ironically, right after the garbage LOAs we’re signed.

Yeah, they're definitely playing dirty. I will not be supporting any LOAs of any kind going forward until they restore quicktrade. No discussions necessary as far as I'm concerned.

At least it's still pretty easy to look up reserve assignments in CCI. Should have no problem appropriating if that's your thing.

Of course. I pleaded with the MEC to not fall into managment trap again thinking if we help them they will help us. Once again I’m proven right about them.

Also the extension was given so that proves the April 3rd date was a squeeze tactic as well.

do tell..... LoL

Shhhh!!!
They’ll pull that too now.

Eff these mf'rs, srsly.

I was all for trying to save the company money until now. After this sleazy low blow guess what I’ll be doing every time I get to the curb. I’ll be starting a timer and when that timer hits 15 minutes I’ll be taking a cab to the hotel courtesy of Envoy.

Yes, but he did say sorry.
That makes it all better now. 🤬🤬

Guess they’re convinced the LOAs are gonna be successful and they won’t need to ask us for anything else before they furlough in October

comes across as very petty and vindictive, people used QT for much more than poaching likely cancelled turns out of open time

How long will QT be down for? ALPA help!!!

Guessing, well after covid19 is over

It was approved it doesn't mean people need to take it.

Can one proffer still? If not I will be calling in sick this is absolutely the biggest BS!

Is this a serious question?

it was but you don’t have to be a bag a douche about it

Yes. Anything done in QuickTrade can be done in Sabre. Think of quicktrade as a graphical overlay of Sabre.

ask around for the envoy Sabre guide pdf.

Come on man, don't tell me I need to hold your hand... it's right there.

And for what it's worth, appropriation is the reason the company has wanted to take back LOA 13-13 since before this month. Just pointing out there are still simple ways to go out and get some premium flying without QT.

I find it interesting that if WE don't like what the company does and "change our behavior" like the amount of OT we pick up, it's considered an illegal work action. But it's OK for the company to say it's OK to use this app, but only if we vote for the LOA they want us to vote for.

I just don't see much difference. Sounds like a great legal action for ALPA to take.

you don’t need to hold my hand. You don’t need to be snarky either. I know how to find it, I was being sarcastic, as nobody knows how to live without qt.

its under input required.

I’m on an appropriated trip as we speak ;-)

It was a bit of a silly question.
Its also a bit of an idle threat. Are you planning on calling in sick for the rest of you career? That’s going to be a short career.

I now fully understand why the protected pilots hated this place and management.

I knew we were dealing with rats but I didn’t know they would go that low. An hour after we sign that bs CSLOA they shut down QT? They are playing with the pilot group.

Good for you, it's one of the most misunderstood and underutilized part of our contract. I wish more people did this.

what career? there will be furloughs and it will take a long time to recover back to the January 2020 levels.

What kind of black magic do PSA and PDT use for their OT and trading? It would still loop into DECS right? Think we can jump on that until our dear QT is restored?

I have appropriated a few trips myself in the past. I see people trying to pick up OT for the next day using the automated system, FYI this won’t work.

You wait until it is assigned to a reserve then at 5pm call and tell crew schedule you want to “appropiate” whatever trip it is. This will give YOU the OT premium and whoever is on reserve will go back to reserve.

I am putting this out there just in general so people get an idea of how it works.

I'm not sure but I dont think psa and pdt use decs.

Yes. As a commuter, it's just about the only way to pick up OT outside of the RF window. And I don't like the idea of competing with everyone calling in at 5pm hoping I'm first... but what you say is exactly correct (but it's not exactly the ONLY way to appropriate...just the best way if you commute). And it's why the company wants to take this LOA back... it's often hard to reassign that reserve pilot, particularly if he's already confirmed his assignment. But it's now easier to do this than it is to use QT to pick up OT. For those tying to pull in extra money, this may be the best way the company has left them to do so.

Hold on sparky... let's try to keep the reserve guy in mind. I am all for appropriating flying for more OT. But don't call at 5pm. If the dude has proffered for a trip with a 6pm show on day 1 so that he can commute in, but you appropriate it before he can confirm, then he gets sent back to his default RAP 1 with no way of getting to work on time. It would be nice to at least give him a heads up to confirm before you call so that he can keep his show time and then get his cancellation hotel.

I recommend a PM through the appropriate facebook group.

Not too long ago, I talked to a pdt pilot on a deadhead and asked him about decs... he had no clue what I was talking about. They do it differently entirely. I assume the same about PSA but I could be wrong.

I do wish this was possible. Not everyone is on facebook though.

I do think a reserve guy, if he wants that late PM show time to stick, should call in to AVRS so that there is no hold time on the line. If you call to appropriate, even if you call right on the 5pm time... you will hold. It's been a while since I was on reserve but I don't remember having to hold on the automated AVRS line.

ALSO, you can have yourself listed on the reserve turnback list to keep yourself from being removed. You can also remove yourself from said list at any time, including right before you depart. This falls under the most misunderstood part of our contract I referenced earlier.

If the dude isn't on Facebook, that's his loss. It's about the only reasonable way to contact someone directly, or make yourself available to be contacted.

Frankly, I wish the turnback list never existed. It keeps people from making money while the reserve flies for free. I understand commuters feel they need to use it to protect their hotel, but they shouldn't. Also, in the above situation, I don't believe the turnback list will save the late show if the reserve hasn't confirmed. I'll have to try it out next month when I am back on reserve.

We need to develop some courtesies to be used among each other. It's a shame that we are conditioned to use a system that has us acting like people of Walmart scrapping over the last pack of toilet paper. There's got to be a better way.