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Toolbox9909 04-12-2020 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AeroEnvoy (Post 3021296)
I was all for trying to save the company money until now. After this sleazy low blow guess what I’ll be doing every time I get to the curb. I’ll be starting a timer and when that timer hits 15 minutes I’ll be taking a cab to the hotel courtesy of Envoy.

They'll deny reimbursement, and ruin it for legitimate van no shows for everyone else. Learn how to use decs and save $5 a month. its not hard.

MqWhistleblower 04-12-2020 06:05 PM

I’ve been picking up OT like a *****. Nothing like proving to those bastards that we can still pick up OT

Lahey 04-12-2020 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 3400 (Post 3021539)
What kind of black magic do PSA and PDT use for their OT and trading? It would still loop into DECS right? Think we can jump on that until our dear QT is restored?

absolutely, here’s piedmont’s secret:

there’s this little thing called Twitter, all ya gotta have to sign up is an email address and then tell the pilots to follow it, then scheduling will post open time with pictures of money raining down from the skies saying ‘PHL ca needed 4 turn @ 16:00 PRM AVAIL CALL SCHED’.

its cutting edge, I know.

the rest of the open time? gets posted on a webpage at a random time, after 3:00PM. to pick your trip, send an email in (BEFORE 3:00) to sched, then call them at some point after 3:00 and hope they have sorted through all the ‘GCOM’ requests to see if it’s been approved. they’ll deny it or approve it for whatever reason they feel that day (no known guidelines for approval or deny). oh and if you aren’t on good terms with sched, they’ll just deny everything you send in.

trading? must have both pilots email a ‘GCOM’ request to sched to swap, may, or may not be approved.

we’ve been perfecting these scheduling practice for years....if you need help, let piedmont know, they are fantastic with this stuff.

dera 04-12-2020 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lahey (Post 3030821)
absolutely, here’s piedmont’s secret:

there’s this little thing called Twitter, all ya gotta have to sign up is an email address and then tell the pilots to follow it, then scheduling will post open time with pictures of money raining down from the skies saying ‘PHL ca needed 4 turn @ 16:00 PRM AVAIL CALL SCHED’.

its cutting edge, I know.

the rest of the open time? gets posted on a webpage at a random time, after 3:00PM. to pick your trip, send an email in (BEFORE 3:00) to sched, then call them at some point after 3:00 and hope they have sorted through all the ‘GCOM’ requests to see if it’s been approved. they’ll deny it or approve it for whatever reason they feel that day (no known guidelines for approval or deny). oh and if you aren’t on good terms with sched, they’ll just deny everything you send in.

trading? must have both pilots email a ‘GCOM’ request to sched to swap, may, or may not be approved.

we’ve been perfecting these scheduling practice for years....if you need help, let piedmont know, they are fantastic with this stuff.

Envoy has likely the best OT rules of any regional.
Every single uncrewed trip has to be in open time apart from a 9 hour period the day before the trip. And trips assigned to reserves can be taken by guys on days off (unless the reserve puts himself on a list preventing this).

It's one of the few things that are industry leading at Envoy.

dera 04-12-2020 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MqWhistleblower (Post 3030819)
I’ve been picking up OT like a *****. Nothing like proving to those bastards that we can still pick up OT

I know someone with 160 hours (if you include OT premium) credit this month.
Just out of spite.
(before you start questioning, it includes VC, DTS, sick time, and a ton of cancelled OT.)

Chato 04-12-2020 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dera (Post 3030825)
Envoy has likely the best OT rules of any regional.
Every single uncrewed trip has to be in open time apart from a 9 hour period the day before the trip. And trips assigned to reserves can be taken by guys on days off (unless the reserve puts himself on a list preventing this).

It's one of the few things that are industry leading at Envoy.

this is exactly what the company has been trying to take away from us. every single chance they get. NOT happening, sorry.

Tyrion 04-12-2020 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dera (Post 3030825)
Envoy has likely the best OT rules of any regional.
Every single uncrewed trip has to be in open time apart from a 9 hour period the day before the trip. And trips assigned to reserves can be taken by guys on days off (unless the reserve puts himself on a list preventing this).

It's one of the few things that are industry leading at Envoy.

Can you give us a little compare and contrast to the OT rules at other regionals? What are the OT rules at Skywest? Republic? Endeavor? Mesa? Expressjet? GoJet? etc.

Before you spout off something like "industry leading" and "Envoy has likely the best OT rules of any regional," do you actually know how those other carriers handle OT? Otherwise, you are just sounding like THK.

dera 04-13-2020 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyrion (Post 3030924)
Can you give us a little compare and contrast to the OT rules at other regionals? What are the OT rules at Skywest? Republic? Endeavor? Mesa? Expressjet? GoJet? etc.

Before you spout off something like "industry leading" and "Envoy has likely the best OT rules of any regional," do you actually know how those other carriers handle OT? Otherwise, you are just sounding like THK.

You're boring.
Yes, I know how others handle OT.

AeroEnvoy 04-13-2020 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyrion (Post 3030924)
Can you give us a little compare and contrast to the OT rules at other regionals? What are the OT rules at Skywest? Republic? Endeavor? Mesa? Expressjet? GoJet? etc.

Before you spout off something like "industry leading" and "Envoy has likely the best OT rules of any regional," do you actually know how those other carriers handle OT? Otherwise, you are just sounding like THK.

OT at PSA was 125% pay and 150% pay during critical, I imagine the same is true for most regionals. There was no appropriating at premium either. At Messa if you picked up OT, it was only 100% and it wasn’t paid on top of your guarantee. There was really no point picking up OT if you’re on reserve unless you wanted extra flight time or perdiem.

dera 04-13-2020 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AeroEnvoy (Post 3031014)
OT at PSA was 125% pay and 150% pay during critical, I imagine the same is true for most regionals. There was no appropriating at premium either. At Messa if you picked up OT, it was only 100% and it wasn’t paid on top of your guarantee. There was really no point picking up OT if you’re on reserve unless you wanted extra flight time or perdiem.

Envoy is the only regional (I don't have Silvers contract so if they have it, so be it) with unlimited OT, with appropriation, and everything paying premium, and where CS can not withhold any unassigned sequences or assign them in advance outside the proffering window to reserves.

Like I said. Industry leading. One of the few things in our contract that are that.


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