propellere

I agree. Sorry you guys are having a decrease

Swakid8

You can't just say that flow is a bad deal. Hell, If someone lives in base, one that can argue that their QOL along with the ability to make decent money and having flow in the back pocket just to have options on the table just icing on the cake is overall a better deal. As a commuter, you would be looking either a WO or a non-WO regional that is either Republic (not bad depending where you are located), Skywest (not terrible depending on location), Mesa (Really?), ExpressJet (Really?), CommutAir (Really?) Air Wisconsin (Really?), Compass (shut down Really?), TSA (Shut Down Really), GoJet (doesn't look good but really?) Horizon (Terrible unless you live out west). There are only a handful of Regionals where one will see good pay and good QOL (Endeavor or Republic and I might toss Skywest in this category).

The point I am getting at is like you said, picking a regional based on location, qol, pay, movement all like depends on a person situation but flow can't be ignore when it comes to a choice between Regionals since it did create movement.

propellere

To accurately answer that question, you need to think like a business and not like a pilot. At the end of the day, it all comes down to profit. Mesa pays their pilots a lot less, and trust me I know first hand. It’s just business. Get somewhere you can get hours quickly and get out. Sitting on reserve just keeps you at a regional longer. Sorry to hear you guys are losing some flying and shrinking. The flying will come back in time. Hope for the best. Let’s work together, not against each other.

rickair7777

They can't usually just "can" regionals... they have contracts for a set duration.

What they can do is reduce discretionary flying which is above the regionals contractual min (their "guarantee").

They can also opt not to renew any contracts which happen to expire in the downturn. This is likely for small operators, but less likely for jumbo regionals like SKW/RAH... they know they're going to need them again soon enough.

If they want to badly enough, they can make a deal with a regional to buy them out of their contract early. The cost of that will depend on exposure... if a regional just bought a bunch of new RJ's for a 15 year contract with a majot, buying out of that one will be monumentally expensive... it will be cheaper to just pay them during the downturn.

WO's are actually the easiest to reduce, since they can just do it. No need to do buyout's, or declare BK to get out of contracts.

BoldPilot

I actually agree with everything you said, but not quite on the location part. Regionals open and close bases as frequently as celebrity’s change their spouses. I mean look at Compass who started out in the Midwest/East Coast and then finished their final year’s exclusively on the west coast. Don’t uproot your life chasing to live in base. My 2 cents.

highfarfast

You should probably favor those close to where you live when you're starting though. By the time your flavor of base closes, you probably have enough seniority to make commuting much more tolerable than it would have been commuting from the bottom of the list. But I agree, don't chase the base for a regional.

jtsastre

This is a myopic view. It’s a job, a job is a job. To say it’s a stepping stone is like saying any other “less-paying” job isn’t an actual “job.” Tell that to any customer service employee...

Who’s going to be on their deathbed and say, “man, I wish I would have made it to a major”?

jtsastre

The horror!

AB321Driver

As it should be.

Av8rPHX

You can’t just terminate legally binding contracts without paying a penalty. They pulled force majeure with CPZ,but that was for a small amount of planes and right at the beginning of the Rona stuff


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