Search

Notices
Envoy Airlines Regional Airline

5 yloa

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-25-2020 | 09:27 AM
  #121  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by THKooj
Give it a little time. There is some maneuvering going on behind the scenes right now that should benefit all Envoy/AA guys. Can't reveal anymore than that at this time.
OK. AAG just announced furloughs of 19,000 personnel. Face it it’s time for you to SHUT UP, crawl back into your make believe world and quit posting BLATANT LIES.
Reply
Old 08-25-2020 | 09:50 AM
  #122  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 189
Likes: 0
Default

Kooj, it's time to retire that screen name. Your prediction fell apart less than a day later, you have no credibility.
Reply
Old 08-25-2020 | 12:45 PM
  #123  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 216
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Shiner
Is that crap on a stick LOA over at AA limited to the 2500 with WARN letters, or could they potentially WARN more pilots and put even more on zero time/part time lines eventually?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
They can send out as many more warn letters as they want. For now it's the original 2500 that got shafted by APA with no lube. But now that the genie is out of the bottle and ZTLs have been unleashed, AA will use that as a starting point.

I thought ALPA was bad when I was at Eagle (Envoy). APA makes me miss ALPA and everything else about Envoy. Yeah, it's that pathetic over here. My only hope is that as more of us come over we'll slowly change things from within.
Reply
Old 08-25-2020 | 01:12 PM
  #124  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 638
Likes: 12
Default

Originally Posted by FetaCheese
They can send out as many more warn letters as they want. For now it's the original 2500 that got shafted by APA with no lube. But now that the genie is out of the bottle and ZTLs have been unleashed, AA will use that as a starting point.

I thought ALPA was bad when I was at Eagle (Envoy). APA makes me miss ALPA and everything else about Envoy. Yeah, it's that pathetic over here. My only hope is that as more of us come over we'll slowly change things from within.
Unfortunaley, probably around 30-40% of the people who just got their furlough notices are guys that “came over”.
Timing is everything in the industry. It’s also mostly blind luck.
Most of those guys fought through a lot of rough times at EGL on to get to AA and suddenly find even harder times.
Reply
Old 08-25-2020 | 01:26 PM
  #125  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,729
Likes: 0
Default

Roughly what year/month of new did the furloughs and ZTL’s go back to?
Reply
Old 08-25-2020 | 01:39 PM
  #126  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 610
Likes: 0
Default

You know, every generation of pilots has its “stuff.” Millennials get plenty of crap, but admittedly the Millennial generation has been continuously beat down by post-9/11, post-2008, COVID, increased costs of education, cost of living, wage stagnation, etc. Career progression has been downright difficult if not near-impossible. I feel for the Eagle guys that finally made it to AA and now are going to be on the street. Life isn’t fair, but they can’t catch a break.
Reply
Old 08-25-2020 | 01:40 PM
  #127  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 191
Likes: 0
From: CA
Default

Originally Posted by Voski
You know, every generation of pilots has its “stuff.” Millennials get plenty of crap, but admittedly the Millennial generation has been continuously beat down by post-9/11, post-2008, COVID, increased costs of education, cost of living, wage stagnation, etc. Career progression has been downright difficult if not near-impossible. I feel for the Eagle guys that finally made it to AA and now are going to be on the street. Life isn’t fair, but they can’t catch a break.
Quoted for emphasis.
Reply
Old 08-25-2020 | 01:44 PM
  #128  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
Default

f

Originally Posted by Voski
You know, every generation of pilots has its “stuff.” Millennials get plenty of crap, but admittedly the Millennial generation has been continuously beat down by post-9/11, post-2008, COVID, increased costs of education, cost of living, wage stagnation, etc. Career progression has been downright difficult if not near-impossible. I feel for the Eagle guys that finally made it to AA and now are going to be on the street. Life isn’t fair, but they can’t catch a break.


So how about more leaves of absences????
Reply
Old 08-25-2020 | 01:52 PM
  #129  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 1,285
Likes: 0
From: 175 CA
Default

Originally Posted by Voski
You know, every generation of pilots has its “stuff.” Millennials get plenty of crap, but admittedly the Millennial generation has been continuously beat down by post-9/11, post-2008, COVID, increased costs of education, cost of living, wage stagnation, etc. Career progression has been downright difficult if not near-impossible. I feel for the Eagle guys that finally made it to AA and now are going to be on the street. Life isn’t fair, but they can’t catch a break.
yep.

The normal career boomers had seems to be an exception. These macro events are far further reaching with our more interconnected world.
Reply
Old 08-25-2020 | 02:11 PM
  #130  
MikeTang's Avatar
Line Holder
 
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
From: Space Shuttle
Default

Originally Posted by havick206
Roughly what year/month of new did the furloughs and ZTL’s go back to?
Aug 2018 ----
Reply

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices