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08-22-2020, 03:23 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
Everything I heard last summer was they were holding out for the AIP as well. Then the company offered them 5 more flows per month for 10 months and then, well, you know.
08-22-2020, 04:50 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by rld1k
Good thing they didn't bring it to a vote that would have failed. What would we do without that flow
08-22-2020, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by rld1k
Good thing they didn't bring it to a vote that would have failed. What would we do without that flow
08-22-2020, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145
Read your policy manual. A pilot vote wasn't required in any way, shape, or form last summer. But you'd know that if you read it. At least ORD held out and said no.
08-22-2020, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
It is. “See you in 2023 or bankruptcy. Whichever comes first”... Assuming they don’t just wind us down completely anyway.
Kudos to PSA for standing strong.
The WO’s are all in a tough spot with this state of the industry since we don’t have contracts with our mainline partner. We could all be the next on the chopping block if needed for scope and/or cost relief.
I hope the days of the whipsaw are behind us, and we can all stand together to preserve what we fought for these past few years.
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08-23-2020, 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Shiner
Kudos to PSA for standing strong.
The WO’s are all in a tough spot with this state of the industry since we don’t have contracts with our mainline partner. We could all be the next on the chopping block if needed for scope and/or cost relief.
I hope the days of the whipsaw are behind us, and we can all stand together to preserve what we fought for these past few years.
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The WO’s are all in a tough spot with this state of the industry since we don’t have contracts with our mainline partner. We could all be the next on the chopping block if needed for scope and/or cost relief.
I hope the days of the whipsaw are behind us, and we can all stand together to preserve what we fought for these past few years.
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08-23-2020, 04:24 AM
#27
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Its aag proven method of beating w/o's. Go after psa, then use psa agreement to beat envoy, then go to pdt and push them to the cliff.
if this is true regarding psa, then aag has lost or been delayed greatly from beating the shi+ out of the w/o's. We will just have to wait and see.
remember aag is not out of the woods, they ate still greatly in debt. They are the favorite choice of being first into bankruptcy
if bankruptcy is possible then concessions at this time is wrong because they will just come after the contract again in bankruptcy. AAG likes double and triple dipping.
if this is true regarding psa, then aag has lost or been delayed greatly from beating the shi+ out of the w/o's. We will just have to wait and see.
remember aag is not out of the woods, they ate still greatly in debt. They are the favorite choice of being first into bankruptcy
if bankruptcy is possible then concessions at this time is wrong because they will just come after the contract again in bankruptcy. AAG likes double and triple dipping.
08-23-2020, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
Its aag proven method of beating w/o's. Go after psa, then use psa agreement to beat envoy, then go to pdt and push them to the cliff.
if this is true regarding psa, then aag has lost or been delayed greatly from beating the shi+ out of the w/o's. We will just have to wait and see.
remember aag is not out of the woods, they ate still greatly in debt. They are the favorite choice of being first into bankruptcy
if bankruptcy is possible then concessions at this time is wrong because they will just come after the contract again in bankruptcy. AAG likes double and triple dipping.
if this is true regarding psa, then aag has lost or been delayed greatly from beating the shi+ out of the w/o's. We will just have to wait and see.
remember aag is not out of the woods, they ate still greatly in debt. They are the favorite choice of being first into bankruptcy
if bankruptcy is possible then concessions at this time is wrong because they will just come after the contract again in bankruptcy. AAG likes double and triple dipping.
08-23-2020, 09:12 AM
#29
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Originally Posted by Cyio
Lets hope that new bill gets passed in Congress to stop them from using BK's to rewrite labor contracts. If you haven't done so, make sure you follow the ALPA steps to inform your representitives.
08-23-2020, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by APCbot
I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but will that even accomplish anything? Say airline X goes bankrupt, they can't gut the contract, so the just close down the company and magically reopen as airline Y. Everyone gets a ****ty new contract and first year pay. What's to stop them from doing that?
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