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DescendVia 08-20-2020 07:50 PM

New Unity Video
 
Alright, which one of you made this? Submitting you for Sundance next year.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=_STrcZ1OSLQ

Search “Charlie Bucket in a meeting” on YouTube if you don’t trust the link (don’t blame you).

SeniorGummer 08-21-2020 01:20 PM

That’s good stuff!

Freighthotdog 08-21-2020 01:24 PM

Serious question,

Is PSA’s MEC actually not returning phone calls? I heard that’s what happened with the recent pay raises almost a year ago.

DescendVia 08-21-2020 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by Freighthotdog (Post 3113683)
Serious question,

Is PSA’s MEC actually not returning phone calls? I heard that’s what happened with the recent pay raises almost a year ago.

Another thread is saying PSA management is only offering permanent concessions. Nothing temporary. Haven’t heard or seen anything about what their MEC is doing. I’m so far removed from that kind of information though so just consider this filler until someone with more knowledge comes along.

I’d just be happy to hear something from our own MEC other than “we can’t say” or “we can’t negotiate until the window for leave closes”. Something along those lines. The last video conference call was actually informative and would be welcomed again.

Varsity 08-21-2020 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by DescendVia (Post 3113729)
Another thread is saying PSA management is only offering permanent concessions. Nothing temporary. Haven’t heard or seen anything about what their MEC is doing. I’m so far removed from that kind of information though so just consider this filler until someone with more knowledge comes along.

I’d just be happy to hear something from our own MEC other than “we can’t say” or “we can’t negotiate until the window for leave closes”. Something along those lines. The last video conference call was actually informative and would be welcomed again.


If they can't say, they really can't say.

The union and management talk about things that do not come to fruition. It's just the nature of the game.

TC and team are the best communicators of the last 3 MEC's I have worked under.

Swakid8 08-21-2020 06:08 PM

All I am going to say that our MEC walked as the company was trying to force concessions. Even played games with furlough numbers. I am glad they did because the pilot group collective wanted no concessions.

Cyio 08-21-2020 06:52 PM

I’ve watched this three times now and just keeps getting better.

boxthrower 08-21-2020 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by DescendVia (Post 3113729)
Another thread is saying PSA management is only offering permanent concessions. Nothing temporary. Haven’t heard or seen anything about what their MEC is doing. I’m so far removed from that kind of information though so just consider this filler until someone with more knowledge comes along.

I’d just be happy to hear something from our own MEC other than “we can’t say” or “we can’t negotiate until the window for leave closes”. Something along those lines. The last video conference call was actually informative and would be welcomed again.


The union walked away from negotiations with PSA management. They sent a pretty long letter about it. The MEC also rejected an early out option for the more senior guys (which isn’t many). I guess they finally learned how to not take permanent concessions. Also, the pilot group didn’t want permanent concessions which they made loud and clear.

BigZ 08-21-2020 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by boxthrower (Post 3113804)
Also, the pilot group didn’t want permanent concessions which they made loud and clear.

Thank you for that. Seriously.

captande 08-21-2020 09:05 PM

We’re not privy to exactly what was asked for. Rumor mill has said they asked for just about everything except hourly rate (Min guarantee, tiered pay, sap). The union tossed some temporary relief ideas, but they weren’t interested. So last week the negotiators walked out and told them let it ride. They’re sending just about the whole 730 furlough letters and downgrading upwards of 300 captains. Taking it on the chin, but we’ll get through. Hope for less turbulence for you all in the coming weeks.


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