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03-04-2021 | 08:14 AM

#131

highfarfast

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Originally Posted by CptnDave

We won’t close ORD

He didn't say it would be closed.

03-04-2021 | 08:22 AM

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Feels like time for a Best Coast base. We already have like 6 daily departures from Phoenix.

03-04-2021 | 08:22 AM

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We won’t close ORD

Displacement is not the same as closing. We are clearly heavy on OCL and if Miami needs them in the short term that’s a good place to start.

03-04-2021 | 08:33 AM

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Displacement is not the same as closing. We are clearly heavy on OCL and if Miami needs them in the short term that’s a good place to start.

Focus on staffing MIA and DFW, give ORD to OO and RAH until flying picks up enough there that AAG can turn a profit then stick all the 224 guys getting paid to sit at home (hopefully they don't have to go on the involuntary leave) in ORD and maybe some new hires eventually.

03-04-2021 | 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator

Feels like time for a Best Coast base. We already have like 6 daily departures from Phoenix.

I thought so too, but then I saw PSA in DFW and Piedmont in ORD, and everyone over there thought they were gonna get new bases. PHX would be nice though I could play more golf.

03-04-2021 | 10:14 AM

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Cyio

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Feels like time for a Best Coast base. We already have like 6 daily departures from Phoenix.

This would make too many people happy therefore it will never happen

03-04-2021 | 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyio

This would make too many people happy therefore it will never happen

True, but you have to balance that with how many the ‘Voy can make UNhappy by displacing people west, so it could still be a thing...

03-04-2021 | 03:35 PM

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Base is not a function of departures a day, it depends on number of planes overnighting. I haven't looked but I think we have 0 in PHX.

03-04-2021 | 05:25 PM

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Base is not a function of departures a day, it depends on number of planes overnighting. I haven't looked but I think we have 0 in PHX.

So there are crews overnighting but not planes?

Just asking. I think an Envoy PHX base is just as unlikely as the LAX.

03-04-2021 | 06:17 PM

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Base is not a function of departures a day, it depends on number of planes overnighting. I haven't looked but I think we have 0 in PHX.

We aren’t flying 175s at all to MIA until the base opens next month. None of the numbers matter, what matters is what the bean counters want.

Also our daily flights in PHX top out around 9 next month, almost as many as our ORD 175 departures. 🙃