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Old 09-19-2020, 03:48 PM
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Thanks for the help guys, really put it into perspective that all who left made the right choice regardless of money owed. Keep telling yourself that fulfilling lopsided contracts is honorable. I bought out of a bad deal and so will my buddies.

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Old 09-19-2020, 04:04 PM
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afaik nothing in my contract that says I have to help the company collect on their contracts. Might be prudent to show the DEC contract to a labor attorney and get their ideas on how to exit strategically BEFORE you quit.
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Old 09-19-2020, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Oregon Trail View Post
Keep telling yourself that fulfilling lopsided contracts is honorable.

Well reading comprehension matters. It was called a “Retention Bonus” not just a no strings bonus. So there’s nothing lopsided about it. It was completely voluntary. No sense in demonizing the company over it. Same with speeding tickets; go ahead and speed, just don’t demonize the police when they pull you over.


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Old 09-19-2020, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Captian Open View Post
I have a buddy who left before his time was up on the contract. Now envoy is threatening to sue him. Anyone know what the deal is? Will they sue? Is it legal for them to sue him for a bonus?
Recovery of the money would keep them flying for another hour and 23 minutes.
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Old 09-21-2020, 10:55 AM
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Signing bonuses are not unique to Envoy or the airlines. If a repayment clause is included up front you have very little legal wiggle room if they enforce it. Best option is to consult a lawyer.
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Old 09-21-2020, 11:29 AM
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So if it benefits the Company said pilot could have requested to be let out of the contract citing the additional training and administrative cost for keeping that slot filled by him vs waiving the company rights. I know - logic - too much to ask in this industry.
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Old 09-22-2020, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Oregon Trail View Post
Said the loser still at envoy, good luck with that flow. Im glad Im not with this pilot group anymore. My friend is going to pay up. A small price to pay for getting out of that toxic environment. You guys will never learn.
They still selling “The Flow”? Is it still 5.5 years?
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Old 09-22-2020, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Oregon Trail View Post
Keep telling yourself that fulfilling lopsided contracts is honorable.
If it teaches you that SIGNING lopsided contracts is STUPID, then it probably was a very valuable experience for you, well worth the cost.
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Originally Posted by tommy2times View Post
They still selling “The Flow”? Is it still 5.5 years?
You might want to ask THkooj about this. Envoy/AA 's cheerleader.
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Old 09-22-2020, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Helij3t View Post
You might want to ask THkooj about this. Envoy/AA 's cheerleader.
If you ask him, there is something in the works, and it is actually closer to 4 years now.
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