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Old 09-19-2020, 10:32 AM
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I suppose if staying would have benefitted the company.
Whether one’s leaving early benefitted the company or not, has nothing to do with it. By trying to spin it and rationalize it that way, quite frankly smacks of a kid’s entitlement attitude. Whatever happened to integrity? I’d advise the guy to sack up because being an adult is sooo hard sometimes. If a DEC received a large cash incentive to come and earn a higher wage (CA pay) out of seniority order by agreeing to terms, then cool, but not everyone else already here on property got that same $, so if a DEC decided on their own to leave and violate the agreement, cool, but hey the company paid so now it’s your turn. I don’t believe my attitude on this denotes being a pro-company cheerleader at all, since I’m unapologetically not. However it’s not cool for DECs to grab the cash and run. Why? Because others who ARE responsible and pay it back are disadvantaged then, as well as anyone who didn’t get that bonus. My 2 cents. Sorry for the rant just can’t stand soft, crybaby, posers claiming to be responsible airmen.


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Old 09-19-2020, 11:20 AM
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Whether one’s leaving early benefitted the company or not, has nothing to do with it. By trying to spin it and rationalize it that way, quite frankly smacks of a kid’s entitlement attitude. Whatever happened to integrity? I’d advise the guy to sack up because being an adult is sooo hard sometimes. If a DEC received a large cash incentive to come and earn a higher wage (CA pay) out of seniority order by agreeing to terms, then cool, but not everyone else already here on property got that same $, so if a DEC decided on their own to leave and violate the agreement, cool, but hey the company paid so now it’s your turn. I don’t believe my attitude on this denotes being a pro-company cheerleader at all, since I’m unapologetically not. However it’s not cool for DECs to grab the cash and run. Why? Because others who ARE responsible and pay it back are disadvantaged then, as well as anyone who didn’t get that bonus. My 2 cents. Sorry for the rant just can’t stand soft, crybaby, posers claiming to be responsible airmen.


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well said. The individual was paid for a service with a time frame attached. The individual did not compete agreement as said contract this individual
signed and accepted the money for. This individual breached said contract and now is responsible to repay prorated amount of breach. Pay up loser, you chose your bed now pay for it.
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Old 09-19-2020, 11:26 AM
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well said. The individual was paid for a service with a time frame attached. The individual did not compete agreement as said contract this individual
signed and accepted the money for. This individual breached said contract and now is responsible to repay prorated amount of breach. Pay up loser, you chose your bed now pay for it.
Said the loser still at envoy, good luck with that flow. Im glad Im not with this pilot group anymore. My friend is going to pay up. A small price to pay for getting out of that toxic environment. You guys will never learn.
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Old 09-19-2020, 11:31 AM
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Said the loser still at envoy, good luck with that flow. Im glad Im not with this pilot group anymore. My friend is going to pay up. A small price to pay for getting out of that toxic environment. You guys will never learn.

...said the 145 driver on WARN.


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Old 09-19-2020, 11:37 AM
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...said the 145 driver on WARN.


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I am not a 145 driver or on WARN, nor is my buddy.
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Old 09-19-2020, 11:55 AM
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I have a friend in the same situation. Left early 2019 as a direct entry captain owing back $12k. Would have been downgraded to FO Oct 1st, and not needed for the last 6 months. Literally saved the company money by leaving, now they are coming after the $12k.
I suspect that the company would save even more by getting their 12k back.
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Old 09-19-2020, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Oregon Trail View Post
I am not a 145 driver or on WARN, nor is my buddy.
Lol I'm sure this is all about your "buddy" 😂😂

Get real. It has nothing to do with being a company chearleader. You signed a contract. You got 45k, and you only have to pay 12k back after a year and a half, what'd your "buddy" do, blow it all in a few months?

Try getting a car loan and the car breaking down then telling the financer you're not paying because the car doesn't work, or not paying your mortgage because the roof is leaking and see how that works out for you. You signed an agreement, own up to it.

Edit: I just realized you said your "buddy" left in 2019, and your argument is now that, a year later, the company is furloughing and downgrading you somehow did them a favor? Somehow more delusional than the kooj
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Old 09-19-2020, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Oregon Trail View Post
I have a friend in the same situation. Left early 2019 as a direct entry captain owing back $12k. Would have been downgraded to FO Oct 1st, and not needed for the last 6 months. Literally saved the company money by leaving, now they are coming after the $12k.
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Lol I'm sure this is all about your "buddy" 😂😂

Get real. It has nothing to do with being a company chearleader. You signed a contract. You got 45k, and you only have to pay 12k back after a year and a half, what'd your "buddy" do, blow it all in a few months?

Try getting a car loan and the car breaking down then telling the financer you're not paying because the car doesn't work, or not paying your mortgage because the roof is leaking and see how that works out for you. You signed an agreement, own up to it.

Edit: I just realized you said your "buddy" left in 2019, and your argument is now that, a year later, the company is furloughing and downgrading you somehow did them a favor? Somehow more delusional than the kooj

my bad it was 2020
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Old 09-19-2020, 12:29 PM
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This thread should be closed. If you signed the agreement and failed to comply with the contractual agreement there is not much you can do.
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Old 09-19-2020, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Oregon Trail View Post
Said the loser still at envoy, good luck with that flow. Im glad Im not with this pilot group anymore. My friend is going to pay up. A small price to pay for getting out of that toxic environment. You guys will never learn.
did I hit a nerve. What does where one is employed have to do with the fact you or your buddy signed a contract and are in breach of same contract and have to repay the money for the breach in contract that you did not honor. Not a company cheerleader but the fact your upset indicates how irresponsible you and your buddy are on honoring your agreements. Hope your fellow employees where ever you are now at are more honorable than you and your buddy are.
pay up. No sympathy here for dead beats.
go talk to nanci.
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