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Old 10-06-2020 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by martyByrde
go read Toms email. Then you’ll understand who is at fault for furloughs.
He cant. He works for Mesa, not Envoy.
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Old 10-06-2020 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by terks43
False equivalency at its finest. Hopefully your union “brothers and sisters” remember your attitude during this time when they share a cockpit with you again.
We furloughed because of a once in a 100 year event of a virus running around the globe. Not because we have/had people picking up open time. You think that uncovered TOL turn going to a reserve pilot (for “free” by the way)
is going to bring folks back? If you aren’t continuing to shore up your personal balance sheet by continuing or increasing your savings during the this time, let this be a wake up call. If/when you get furloughed and you don’t have enough in savings to support your family, I guarantee you your significant other and kids won’t give 2 ***** you died on the hill for some furloughed envoy cadet kid.
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Old 10-06-2020 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
He cant. He works for Mesa, not Envoy.
Thats explains a lot. You working for Mesa which has been undercutting literally every airline for decades has done way more damage than anyone picking up OT.
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Old 10-06-2020 | 10:53 AM
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Idk why y’all are bashing our union members. They also need to pay their bills etc. We have furloughed pilots because management doesn’t want to negotiate with us, they want straight concessions. Our MEC is doing a pretty good job!

Disclosure: I’m not in the union.
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Old 10-06-2020 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by FullThrust
We furloughed because of a once in a 100 year event of a virus running around the globe. Not because we have/had people picking up open time. You think that uncovered TOL turn going to a reserve pilot (for “free” by the way)
is going to bring folks back? If you aren’t continuing to shore up your personal balance sheet by continuing or increasing your savings during the this time, let this be a wake up call. If/when you get furloughed and you don’t have enough in savings to support your family, I guarantee you your significant other and kids won’t give 2 ***** you died on the hill for some furloughed envoy cadet kid.
Well said. This isnt like we have people crossing the picket line. If our pilots didn't pick up the open time, it would simply fall to one of the 74 reserve captains/fo's in ORD, of which the company would get out of paying for since they already are on the hook for min guarantee. If it is out there I would much prefer a line pilot getting the money.
Originally Posted by aewhistleblower
Idk why y’all are bashing our union members. They also need to pay their bills etc. We have furloughed pilots because management doesn’t want to negotiate with us, they want straight concessions. Our MEC is doing a pretty good job!

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Agreed, the union is doing about as good as they can given their counterparts across the table.
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Old 10-06-2020 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by terks43
Woah, wait. You guys seriously have union members picking up open time while there are furloughed pilots on your seniority list?

Wow, no words.
Shock, horror. We will have the same thing happening when we furlough in January.
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Old 10-06-2020 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by airspeedsalive
Shock, horror. We will have the same thing happening when we furlough in January.
And I will 100% call them out on it to if it happens. It shouldn’t happen anywhere, end of story.
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Old 10-06-2020 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by aewhistleblower
Idk why y’all are bashing our union members. They also need to pay their bills etc. We have furloughed pilots because management doesn’t want to negotiate with us, they want straight concessions. Our MEC is doing a pretty good job!

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BINGO! This can’t be reiterated enough. These furloughs are not, nor will they ever be a fellow pilots fault. It has been clear from the start of all this that the company, and only the company are to blame.
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Old 10-06-2020 | 11:24 AM
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It's different when you earn a living wage at min guarantee. We don't here.

I wouldn't judge anyone for scooping OT.
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Old 10-06-2020 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by NotChewbacca
BINGO! This can’t be reiterated enough. These furloughs are not, nor will they ever be a fellow pilots fault. It has been clear from the start of all this that the company, and only the company are to blame.
Not sure you can blame them either. Only 35% of the people are flying that flew last year. I would expect nothing less than furloughs. Companies cannot survive without revenue and their job is not to provide jobs with no demand.
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