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THKooj 01-05-2021 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3178002)
Quoting info from the company SEC releases they are required by law to make is FACT, not fear mongering. Contradicting the postings of people who erroneously believe that bond purchase coupons are somehow ‘negotiated’ with bond buyers, or that bond buyers even have free rein over the bonds they CAN by (they don’t, most are mutual funds limited in the ratings of the bonds they can buy by their own prospectus) is not fear mongering, it’s relieving ignorance.

Anybody who doesn’t take the time to take a good hard look into the prospects and viability of a company he/she intends to invest years of their life into, or a major they intend to invest decades of their life into, is doing a disservice to him/herself and their family, especially in this career field where relative seniority is the name of the game and anytime you have to start over you go to the bottom.

And anybody with a sort of ‘Inshallah’ attitude, who believes that “The facts and numbers you mention could change overnight wether for bad or good,” and that we therefore ought not to worry ourselves about them, ought to seriously ask themselves if 121 flying is the right career for them.

Show me on this doll where the big bad Envoy hurt you. Seriously, you come here ad nauseaum blasting out "facts" which really aren't facts by the way about how American is doomed to fail. You really don't know what you're talking about. My bet is on you got fired from Envoy and are still trying to choke down the bitter pill of not being an American Airlines pilot.

LabDad06 01-05-2021 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3178002)
Quoting info from the company SEC releases they are required by law to make is FACT, not fear mongering. Contradicting the postings of people who erroneously believe that bond purchase coupons are somehow ‘negotiated’ with bond buyers, or that bond buyers even have free rein over the bonds they CAN by (they don’t, most are mutual funds limited in the ratings of the bonds they can buy by their own prospectus) is not fear mongering, it’s relieving ignorance.

Anybody who doesn’t take the time to take a good hard look into the prospects and viability of a company he/she intends to invest years of their life into, or a major they intend to invest decades of their life into, is doing a disservice to him/herself and their family, especially in this career field where relative seniority is the name of the game and anytime you have to start over you go to the bottom.

And anybody with a sort of ‘Inshallah’ attitude, who believes that “The facts and numbers you mention could change overnight wether for bad or good,” and that we therefore ought not to worry ourselves about them, ought to seriously ask themselves if 121 flying is the right career for them.

Again, it's not like there isn't a single member here who hasn't seen at least one of your dozens of AA doom and gloom posts.

In addition to your new and insightful AA outlook that we haven't seen dozens of other times, the life advice is great, because we didn't know that it would be in our best interest to look into the companies we want to spend our career with. Good tip.

Airlines are based on seniority? If I start over I have to go to the bottom of the seniority list? Wow, didn't know that, another great tip.

Based on Excargodog's expert, new, insightful advice that none of us have even considered before, I might seriously ask myself if 121 flying is the right career for me. Dude, get over yourself.

highfarfast 01-05-2021 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3178002)
Quoting info from the company SEC releases they are required by law to make is FACT, not fear mongering. Contradicting the postings of people who erroneously believe that bond purchase coupons are somehow ‘negotiated’ with bond buyers, or that bond buyers even have free rein over the bonds they CAN by (they don’t, most are mutual funds limited in the ratings of the bonds they can buy by their own prospectus) is not fear mongering, it’s relieving ignorance.

Anybody who doesn’t take the time to take a good hard look into the prospects and viability of a company he/she intends to invest years of their life into, or a major they intend to invest decades of their life into, is doing a disservice to him/herself and their family, especially in this career field where relative seniority is the name of the game and anytime you have to start over you go to the bottom.

And anybody with a sort of ‘Inshallah’ attitude, who believes that “The facts and numbers you mention could change overnight wether for bad or good,” and that we therefore ought not to worry ourselves about them, ought to seriously ask themselves if 121 flying is the right career for them.

I think you really need to chill out a bit. There are people here that are planning to go elsewhere as soon as hiring starts again but there's not a lot that can be done until then except make yourself ready. There are people that are going to sit tight and wait it out for flow. You're not going to change their minds. They bought it already.

In any case, posts like these just come of like the "get your house in order" posts form those 9 months ago. It gets old.

Cyio 01-05-2021 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 3178008)
Show me on this doll where the big bad Envoy hurt you. Seriously, you come here ad nauseaum blasting out "facts" which really aren't facts by the way about how American is doomed to fail. You really don't know what you're talking about. My bet is on you got fired from Envoy and are still trying to choke down the bitter pill of not being an American Airlines pilot.

I shudder, I mean really shudder at the thought of this, but I have to agree with THKoook, ugh could barely get it out. You are staring to come off a little bitter. You have made your points, they have been repeated many times and are here for all too see.

Excargodog 01-05-2021 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 3178008)
Show me on this doll where the big bad Envoy hurt you. Seriously, you come here ad nauseaum blasting out "facts" which really aren't facts by the way about how American is doomed to fail. You really don't know what you're talking about. My bet is on you got fired from Envoy and are still trying to choke down the bitter pill of not being an American Airlines pilot.

Unable to refute a single FACT, that was presented, THKooj goes for the old ad hominem attack. LOL.

Excargodog 01-05-2021 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by LabDad06 (Post 3178016)
Again, it's not like there isn't a single member here who hasn't seen at least one of your dozens of AA doom and gloom posts.

In addition to your new and insightful AA outlook that we haven't seen dozens of other times, the life advice is great, because we didn't know that it would be in our best interest to look into the companies we want to spend our career with. Good tip.

Airlines are based on seniority? If I start over I have to go to the bottom of the seniority list? Wow, didn't know that, another great tip.

Based on Excargodog's expert, new, insightful advice that none of us have even considered before, I might seriously ask myself if 121 flying is the right career for me. Dude, get over yourself.


Feel free to block or disregard all my posts since they apparently disturb you. It won’t bother me in the least. Have a good day.

Cyio 01-05-2021 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3178038)
Feel free to block or disregard all my posts since they apparently disturb you. It won’t bother me in the least. Have a good day.

Out of curiosity as I am too lazy to look right now, but are you posting these exact same messages in the AA, PSA and Piedmont forums?

If you have been, good on ya. If not, it clearly lends to the argument of bias. I could really care less to be honest but I thought it would be interesting to know.

Excargodog 01-05-2021 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3178054)
Out of curiosity as I am too lazy to look right now, but ...

What is curious is someone denigrating someone else for posting well researched facts while admitting he’s too lazy to do his own research...

;)

Cyio 01-05-2021 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3178058)
What is curious is someone denigrating someone else for posting well researched facts while admitting he’s too lazy to do his own research...

;)

So the answer is no than? I said nothing about the validity or your research.

My question was direct and easy for you to answer.

TransWorld 01-05-2021 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3178054)
Out of curiosity as I am too lazy to look right now, but are you posting these exact same messages in the AA, PSA and Piedmont forums?

If you have been, good on ya. If not, it clearly lends to the argument of bias. I could really care less to be honest but I thought it would be interesting to know.

Just curious myself, and had the time. The last 150 posts (all that is shown). No posts to AA, PSA, nor Piedmont forums. Mostly posts to Envoy and COVID-19. Don’t know about previous posts. Someone can get angry with me, but I am just sharing facts.


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