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Originally Posted by Lucifer
(Post 3179548)
Block you? Why in the Hell would I do that? Oh no, by all means.... carry on. Continue the torture.
Nothing you’ve been saying hasn’t already been addressed. So, what’s the purpose? What is there to gain? Perhaps I can help. What is it you hope to attain by this continued action? What is it you want, I’m always ready to make a deal. |
Originally Posted by Captain Kirk
(Post 3179564)
You sound like Glass negotiating with the Union :D
I have a large staff of loyal followers.....most are lawyers or "labor relations specialists." |
Originally Posted by Lucifer
(Post 3179755)
No, he sounds like me.
I have a large staff of loyal followers.....most are lawyers or "labor relations specialists." |
Originally Posted by Cyio
(Post 3177688)
when I was new here I often felt it was a one team mentality but have since learned otherwise. We are not on the same team by any metric other than name.
. Part of why I don't see why Envoy hates pilots from other regionals. I can't count how many times I pass an Envoy pilot in DFW and they won't even look at you because they know you're flying for AA (not as a wholly owned). They act like they deserve much more than you, whilst we merely fly the airplanes. Yet don't understand that AA hates them much more than their fellow pilots that merely fly the brand. They point fingers at pilots that fly the brand and not at the company that gives out their flying to other regionals. |
Originally Posted by E6BAV8R
(Post 3182471)
Well it is not hard to see based on what AA has done with AE / Envoy. AA wants nothing to do with AE / Envoy. They tried to sell them for a good while, in the early/mid 2010s, but they were too expensive to buy/operate. AA declared bankruptcy and stopped the sale. AA came out of bankruptcy and rebranded AE as Envoy and told them they could operate for others. Yet here we are, in 2021 now, and AA continues to give their flying to other regionals than Envoy - even if their own home base.
Part of why I don't see why Envoy hates pilots from other regionals. I can't count how many times I pass an Envoy pilot in DFW and they won't even look at you because they know you're flying for AA (not as a wholly owned). They act like they deserve much more than you, whilst we merely fly the airplanes. Yet don't understand that AA hates them much more than their fellow pilots that merely fly the brand. They point fingers at pilots that fly the brand and not at the company that gives out their flying to other regionals. What are you taking about? When AA came to us in 2013 with concessions we said no. We stood up. While others bent over and took it. Eagle/envoy pilots are known in the industry for having cojones and standing up to AA. GTFOH with this bs man! You’re just salty you’re getting shafted at the moment. Don’t come here talking to eagle pilots like this. |
Originally Posted by E6BAV8R
(Post 3182471)
Well it is not hard to see based on what AA has done with AE / Envoy. AA wants nothing to do with AE / Envoy. They tried to sell them for a good while, in the early/mid 2010s, but they were too expensive to buy/operate. AA declared bankruptcy and stopped the sale. AA came out of bankruptcy and rebranded AE as Envoy and told them they could operate for others. Yet here we are, in 2021 now, and AA continues to give their flying to other regionals than Envoy - even if their own home base.
Part of why I don't see why Envoy hates pilots from other regionals. I can't count how many times I pass an Envoy pilot in DFW and they won't even look at you because they know you're flying for AA (not as a wholly owned). They act like they deserve much more than you, whilst we merely fly the airplanes. Yet don't understand that AA hates them much more than their fellow pilots that merely fly the brand. They point fingers at pilots that fly the brand and not at the company that gives out their flying to other regionals. |
Originally Posted by E6BAV8R
(Post 3182471)
Well it is not hard to see based on what AA has done with AE / Envoy. AA wants nothing to do with AE / Envoy. They tried to sell them for a good while, in the early/mid 2010s, but they were too expensive to buy/operate. AA declared bankruptcy and stopped the sale. AA came out of bankruptcy and rebranded AE as Envoy and told them they could operate for others. Yet here we are, in 2021 now, and AA continues to give their flying to other regionals than Envoy - even if their own home base.
Part of why I don't see why Envoy hates pilots from other regionals. I can't count how many times I pass an Envoy pilot in DFW and they won't even look at you because they know you're flying for AA (not as a wholly owned). They act like they deserve much more than you, whilst we merely fly the airplanes. Yet don't understand that AA hates them much more than their fellow pilots that merely fly the brand. They point fingers at pilots that fly the brand and not at the company that gives out their flying to other regionals. Oh, and we also got a huge infusion of Expressjet veterans most of whom are not fans of SKYW. tldr it's in your head - also unionize pls. it sucks but it's a necessary evil. |
Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
(Post 3182663)
Oh, and we also got a huge infusion of Expressjet veterans most of whom are not fans of SKYW.
tldr it's in your head - also unionize pls. it sucks but it's a necessary evil. As for ExpressJet, they were doomed before OO bought them out. Then after being basically saved, they attempted to play hard ball and OO management decided to send a message. |
Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN
(Post 3182805)
We’ll unionized if management starts treating us like crap. Our management refuses to furlough or ask for concessions knowing the consequences of a potential movement towards unionizing. One day it could change, but right now not having a union is an advantage for us.
As for ExpressJet, they were doomed before OO bought them out. Then after being basically saved, they attempted to play hard ball and OO management decided to send a message. |
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