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Old 08-07-2021 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by AV8R72
that’s not what he said to my class. He said “in 5 years you’ll flow to AA”. Day 1.
OK. Take that to a judge 5 years from whenever you were hired. Good luck.
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Old 08-07-2021 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by AV8R72
that’s not what he said to my class. He said “in 5 years you’ll flow to AA”. Day 1.
get used to the phrase, this a dynamic industry and things change fast. Also flow is out of envoys hand, except of how many may flow.
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Old 08-07-2021 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
get used to the phrase, this a dynamic industry and things change fast. Also flow is out of envoys hand, except of how many may flow.
This almost sounds like you’re defending Envoy!
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Old 08-07-2021 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
This almost sounds like you’re defending Envoy!
I agree. Sounded slightly defensive. Better wording would be, “It won’t be 5 years and there isn’t a damn thing you can do about it so get in line and shut up.” I don’t have any of the recruiting material, but is there an * (asterisks) anywhere on that page?
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Old 08-08-2021 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
This almost sounds like you’re defending Envoy!
not at all. Facts are facts. Thats what mgt will say and flow is controlled by aa.
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Old 08-08-2021 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
get used to the phrase, this a dynamic industry and things change fast. Also flow is out of envoys hand, except of how many may flow.
AA asked for almost triple..Envoy said no. They can fix the flow if they choose, and it would fix recruiting. We’ll see if they do anything
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Old 08-08-2021 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AV8R72
AA asked for almost triple..Envoy said no. They can fix the flow if they choose, and it would fix recruiting. We’ll see if they do anything
Where is this info coming from and specifically WHO at “AA” wanted more? AA does not have a problem filling classes. Flow is a recruiting and retention tool for Envoy, not really a staffing source for AA. That being said, IF “AA” “needed” more from Envoy, they would get it.

If it really came down to staffing a 145 at ENY or a 737 or 320 at AA, where is AAG going to make sure they have pilots?

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Old 08-08-2021 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
Where is this info coming from and specifically WHO at “AA” wanted more? AA does not have a problem filling classes. Flow is a recruiting and retention tool for Envoy, not really a staffing source for AA. That being said, IF “AA” “needed” more from Envoy, they would get it.
I don’t see why you need to ruin a perfectly good rumor with logic.
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Old 08-08-2021 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by But seriously
I don’t see why you need to ruin a perfectly good rumor with logic.
Of course logic has never come to play in decision making in the airline business.
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Old 08-08-2021 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by AV8R72
AA asked for almost triple..Envoy said no. They can fix the flow if they choose, and it would fix recruiting. We’ll see if they do anything
No, they didn't. Cool story bro. Just ain't true.

It's the opposite to be completely factual with this story. AA said no.
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