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Old 08-05-2021 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Throwitaway
Also good advice.

Listen, for the little money you'd owe its not worth it for them to send someone to find you and serve you papers in the state you live in. It's also not worth them paying the legal fees to recoup what will be a small fraction of the money. They'll send you intimidating letters threatening legal action but it's all smoke. The worst they can do is hit your credit and lets face it, by that time you'll be working at Sun Country and won't be able to afford a new house or car anyways so your credit score is irrelevant.
Someone doesn’t know what an arbitration clause is for. It’s a low cost way to make an example out of you.
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Old 08-05-2021 | 02:21 PM
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I like all the comments about weighing how it would affect your credit score or how you might just be able to get away with it bc the company is too busy to pursue it lol. How about not taking 15k of someone else’s money, and promising to do something in exchange for said money, then turning around and not doing the thing you promised to do. Life happens and maybe you have to leave early so the least you could do for not keeping your word would be to pay them back. I’m pretty sure it’s prorated after a year anyway. If your word as a human being can be thrown to the wayside so easily just because you think there is a chance the person who gave you the money won’t bother to pay a lawyer to get it back, then please stay away from any company I’m working at. Your the same pilot who will steal another pilots trips or drop your unwanted trips into their schedule just because you can and know how to work the system, or file a pipeline report behind the other pilot’s back saying how they screwed up without having the decency to let them know you are filing a report. Take your untrustworthy a$$ to another airline.
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Old 08-05-2021 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mketch11
I like all the comments about weighing how it would affect your credit score or how you might just be able to get away with it bc the company is too busy to pursue it lol. How about not taking 15k of someone else’s money, and promising to do something in exchange for said money, then turning around and not doing the thing you promised to do. Life happens and maybe you have to leave early so the least you could do for not keeping your word would be to pay them back. I’m pretty sure it’s prorated after a year anyway. If your word as a human being can be thrown to the wayside so easily just because you think there is a chance the person who gave you the money won’t bother to pay a lawyer to get it back, then please stay away from any company I’m working at. Your the same pilot who will steal another pilots trips or drop your unwanted trips into their schedule just because you can and know how to work the system, or file a pipeline report behind the other pilot’s back saying how they screwed up without having the decency to let them know you are filing a report. Take your untrustworthy a$$ to another airline.
envoy reneges on their recruiting promises of 5.5 year flow, top pay, min day credit, and many more. Probably a fair trade to renege on your agreement to pay back a bonus that should be included in your regular salary anyway.
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Old 08-05-2021 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rld1k
envoy reneges on their recruiting promises of 5.5 year flow, top pay, min day credit, and many more. Probably a fair trade to renege on your agreement to pay back a bonus that should be included in your regular salary anyway.
No honor among thieves.
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Old 08-05-2021 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rld1k
envoy reneges on their recruiting promises of 5.5 year flow, top pay, min day credit, and many more. Probably a fair trade to renege on your agreement to pay back a bonus that should be included in your regular salary anyway.
None of those things are guaranteed in the work contract that an pilot at Envoy agrees to when they begin working here. Does that make it right for the company to imply such things? No. But even if those things were guaranteed, two wrongs don’t make a right.
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Old 08-06-2021 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by coodrough568
you think they’ll let me bring popcorn to the arbitration hearing???
Only if you bring enough for everyone. . .
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Old 08-07-2021 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mketch11
None of those things are guaranteed in the work contract that an pilot at Envoy agrees to when they begin working here. Does that make it right for the company to imply such things? No. But even if those things were guaranteed, two wrongs don’t make a right.
verbal contracts are a thing too…especially when spoken in the presence of 30 other new hires on day 1 of INDOC.
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Old 08-07-2021 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AV8R72
verbal contracts are a thing too…especially when spoken in the presence of 30 other new hires on day 1 of INDOC.
Good luck with that.
RW says he “expects” you’ll all be at AA in 5 years. Feel free to take that to a judge as a “contract”.
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Old 08-07-2021 | 02:45 PM
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Good luck with that.
RW says he “expects” you’ll all be at AA in 5 years. Feel free to take that to a judge as a “contract”.
Those things were or still are currently all over the recruiting website and written material.
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Old 08-07-2021 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by But seriously
Good luck with that.
RW says he “expects” you’ll all be at AA in 5 years. Feel free to take that to a judge as a “contract”.
that’s not what he said to my class. He said “in 5 years you’ll flow to AA”. Day 1.
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