E-145 Sim #1 at GSW is going where?
09-27-2021 | 05:46 AM
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I'm too old and was too junior to ever have a meaningful career at AA, so it was never a goal for me. It works for younger guys, but if you get to AA in your mid 40s after the huge hiring wave, the numbers change significantly.
Getting hired today at Spirit would net me almost a million dollars more at retirement than waiting 6 more years for flow.
Not sure if 332/hr is "bottom end payrate". But you do you.
Getting hired today at Spirit would net me almost a million dollars more at retirement than waiting 6 more years for flow.
Not sure if 332/hr is "bottom end payrate". But you do you.
09-28-2021 | 04:10 AM
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Yep, try to explain to people that upgrading at an ACMI or LCC in under two years is far superior than waiting 2 years to upgrade at Envoy, then 3-4 more years to flow, then 2-5 years as an AA FO before upgrading. You're potentially at 10 years of CA pay at the LCC-ACMI before they upgrade at AA. If you've only got 15-20 years left getting in the left seat sooner anyplace is probably a better choice than waiting to flow.
09-30-2021 | 07:00 AM
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I'm very happy. Love my life exactly as it is. If sharing some insight can help others make informed decisions, then that's a good thing for all, isn't it? Well, it may not be the best thing for Envoy, but it's still the best thing for the pilots....
09-30-2021 | 07:25 AM
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Nobody here wants to listen to your ranting. You're just........sad.
09-30-2021 | 08:02 AM
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You may still work at Envoy, but your rainbow and pixie dust KoolAid has to be balanced with reality, no matter who it comes from.
09-30-2021 | 02:28 PM
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Fake news. I don't know if there are training contracts, but Frontier CFI hires are not having to pay out of pocket for their type rating.
10-07-2021 | 12:44 PM
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10-07-2021 | 09:03 PM
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“Before transitioning to Frontier, pilots must independently complete an enhanced ATP CTP. “
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12-15-2021 | 11:26 PM
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Envoy Sim Training Moving
Looks like Envoy is getting the boot from the AA training center and will be doing all (or the vast majority) of simulator training at the Dallas Avenger Flight Group 2 facility. A total of 5 sims going in for Envoy’s exclusive use.
First E145 already moved, second being moved. Two brand new E170 sims on order and one coming from Charlotte.
First E145 already moved, second being moved. Two brand new E170 sims on order and one coming from Charlotte.
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