Its time to negotiate a better flow
10-28-2021 | 06:46 AM
#21
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My point was more the process by which the change would come about. Like you pointed out, that much increase in flow would cripple the regional. But as I pointed out, flow is not about staffing AA, but the WO regionals that feed it. It is a balancing act, but unlike figuring the CG on an RJ, no one knows where the balance point is.
You'd be perpetually training new hires, but you'd have pilots in the seats, and flights going out on schedule which other regionals won't.
10-28-2021 | 06:56 AM
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On the contrary, if flow became real and was quicker, and not a 6-8 year thing, the line would be out the door to get the job. Make it a 1.5 years as CA and then flow, and watch how fast they line up for the job. Upgrade as soon as you make minimums, then 1.5 as CA, and boom you're eligible to flow. That could drop it down to a 3 year flow for a new FO....(4 would be more realistic).
You'd be perpetually training new hires, but you'd have pilots in the seats, and flights going out on schedule which other regionals won't.
You'd be perpetually training new hires, but you'd have pilots in the seats, and flights going out on schedule which other regionals won't.
10-28-2021 | 07:17 AM
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>ITT people figure out what some of us have known all along
Flow is next to worthless, AA will pile in outside hires/.mil and bury you in the bottom 1/4 of the seniority list for your entire career.
OTS or bust.
Flow is next to worthless, AA will pile in outside hires/.mil and bury you in the bottom 1/4 of the seniority list for your entire career.
OTS or bust.
10-28-2021 | 08:07 AM
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On the contrary, if flow became real and was quicker, and not a 6-8 year thing, the line would be out the door to get the job. Make it a 1.5 years as CA and then flow, and watch how fast they line up for the job. Upgrade as soon as you make minimums, then 1.5 as CA, and boom you're eligible to flow. That could drop it down to a 3 year flow for a new FO....(4 would be more realistic).
You'd be perpetually training new hires, but you'd have pilots in the seats, and flights going out on schedule which other regionals won't.
You'd be perpetually training new hires, but you'd have pilots in the seats, and flights going out on schedule which other regionals won't.
And while they obviously have to increase training throughput, how are you going to get from where it is now to there?
But flow does have to increase, because if they don’t, they will lose those pilots anyway.
10-28-2021 | 10:20 AM
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yes aa is having lca's quit as we speak why does not envoy send our lca's to aa to help our with the flow is better. But I forget there is something called cba and seniority list and on top far's.
Guess you are new.
Guess you are new.
10-28-2021 | 10:28 AM
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AA has sent pilots to wo on special assignment before. You seem upset, your associates degree and DUI isn't gonna be enough to get you on a mainline list without flow?
10-28-2021 | 01:28 PM
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really name a few that you know. Seems as you ignored cba and seniority list. SJS pilot aren't you.
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