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Old 04-21-2022 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
You are not a student of history I take it? How old were you 11 years ago?







Not really, no. Engineering degree instead. I just don’t sweat stuff as much. I’ll be fine so will OP, as well as the pilot group at AA.


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Old 04-21-2022 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Inclined plane
Not really, no. Engineering degree instead. I just don’t sweat stuff as much. I’ll be fine so will OP, as well as the pilot group at AA.


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Ah, engineering. Are there a lot of temp jobs available in engineering during a recession?





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Old 04-21-2022 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Ah, engineering. Are there a lot of temp jobs available in engineering during a recession?






Don’t know, not necessary for me to know. Plenty of connections, if needed. Wife can carry everything with her job if needed. Zero issue. Live where you can drive to work, work the system, work minimally, and don’t sweat stuff = happy work life balance imho. Others, feel free to worry and HUSTLE your gate on go home day for that commute to a financially stronger airline in a seniority based non-rev system, (or DL while they have temporary, non-contract +space commuting) risking commuting for the foreseeable future, to a junior base for reserve, then upgrade quickly, again to a junior base for reserve, for the foreseeable future. Or move to an expensive “in financially stronger airline base” city with dramatically increased real estate prices/taxes, pay the moving fees, the initial apartment and storage fees while figuring out where to buy an overpriced home, and try to relocate your wife’s job as painlessly as possible for her, or face being a perpetual commuter. This “awesome” situation obviously changes the further out the flow is, but the doom and gloom about AA is just lost on me. Oh and don’t forget to complain about it on APC please. I’ll read it from my boat in lake Dallas on Long call reserve at AA. I’ll feel your pain, I promise. OP you do what’s good for you and your fam. My 2cents.


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Old 04-21-2022 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Inclined plane
OP you do what’s good for you and your fam. My 2cents.
On that much we can agree.
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Old 04-21-2022 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
On that much we can agree.

Cool. Some must not mind dealing with commuting. I avoid it all cost. Airline financial health be damned.


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Old 04-21-2022 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Unable to refute a single word, “BigZ” goes for the ad hominem attack.

Do you even know how to read an annual report?



I don’t put these out, AAL does:

https://s21.q4cdn.com/616071541/file...Financials.pdf
nah, dgaf about the numbers, staring at them isn't a part of my job description. Just can't get over the gag reflex when a compass fo -> wherever you are right now pops in with their analytics every single time someone has a AA question. Are you MQ? No. AA? No. Why are you here then? Every.single.time? Heads up - looked very pathetic a year ago, even more so now. Be happy where you're at and let go. Just let go.
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Old 04-21-2022 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BigZ
nah, dgaf about the numbers, staring at them isn't a part of my job description.
That would be great - if ignoring reality actually CHANGED reality.

It doesn’t.

The SEC REQUIRES companies to publish these “numbers” because they are important, whether you care about them or not.
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Old 04-21-2022 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BigZ
nah, dgaf about the numbers, staring at them isn't a part of my job description. Just can't get over the gag reflex when a compass fo -> wherever you are right now pops in with their analytics every single time someone has a AA question. Are you MQ? No. AA? No. Why are you here then? Every.single.time? Heads up - looked very pathetic a year ago, even more so now. Be happy where you're at and let go. Just let go.
The numbers shouldn't matter to someone already in the AAG system, but they may be relevant to someone looking at options.
No-one will jump between legacies just because of financials, but it may play a role if someone has multiple offers on the table.
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Old 04-22-2022 | 06:11 AM
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For all the talk of a "Compass FO" coming here and posting their opinion, let's turn the tables and point on the sheer hypocrisy of the anti Envoy posters that are here on a regular basis. Some have previous positions within the union and left on their own accord. Why? Well, they've explained that ad nauseam here over and over. One thing that I think of immediately when these posts bashing American come up is, one word, jealousy. American is the largest airline in the world and right now, with the amount of retirements, your career is on a rocket trajectory. These poor guys and gals can only watch from the cockpit of their new "carrier" as a shiny AA 787 passes them as they sit idly by with a mechanical on their antiquated bygone era jet. Seriously, please post in your new forum. There is no reason to continue posting here.
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Old 04-22-2022 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
That would be great - if ignoring reality actually CHANGED reality.

It doesn’t.

The SEC REQUIRES companies to publish these “numbers” because they are important, whether you care about them or not.
Yeah, but unless you’re an executive, worrying about reality doesn’t change reality either. There’s a reason for the saying “ignorance is bliss.”
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