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pitchattitude 05-26-2022 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by g1000pilot (Post 3429617)
750 hrs with Envoy or 750 hrs 121 time?

The LOA also includes giving year for year credit for pay and vacation purposes for prior 121 pilots. This is specifically stated for those hired after the LOA is effective, for 18 months, and can be suspended by the company if they decide they are getting enough new hires.

CFIsoonToBeFO 05-26-2022 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3429989)
The LOA also includes giving year for year credit for pay and vacation purposes for prior 121 pilots. This is specifically stated for those hired after the LOA is effective, for 18 months, and can be suspended by the company if they decide they are getting enough new hires.

I believe it was for prior 121 ALPA Pilots, if I understood it correctly.

TXMike 05-26-2022 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3429982)
That being said, yes, Forced upgrades are coming.

Whether there will be any 145 captain vacancies either published or back filled on the next bid is the big question.


What is your guess on forced upgrades from 175FO -> 145CPT?

175FO forced to 175CPT wouldn't be bad but could cause a non-commuter to start to commute for a bit. Having to swap 175>145 would not be fun...

pitchattitude 05-26-2022 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by CFIsoonToBeFO (Post 3430032)
I believe it was for prior 121 ALPA Pilots, if I understood it correctly.

Doesn’t say anything about specific to ALPA, just “121 carrier”.

dera 05-26-2022 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by TXMike (Post 3430105)
What is your guess on forced upgrades from 175FO -> 145CPT?

175FO forced to 175CPT wouldn't be bad but could cause a non-commuter to start to commute for a bit. Having to swap 175>145 would not be fun...

Junior guys suffering from 15.G.4 has always been to 145.


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