Juat went back and looked at a deadhead I had on AA that was over two hours late. It only has the original time. Never updated. I suppose I should email pay comp so I can get those extra four dollars of per diem!

 

I did this once, they denied it. Mine was 5 hours late.

 

Call them and they will create a LIMO Sign Out time.

I usually do it after block in + 15 minutes, so I am “in rest”.

I’ve done in twice in last couple of weeks.

 

We fought this BS years ago when 117 first started. FM-1 used to say you were on duty for 15 minutes after block in to complete post flight duties. This never changed after 117.

as a result they have a choice:

A. Add additional legs before you block in, as your Flight Duty Period ends when the brake is set without notification of additional flights. Since you’re not required to have an internet capable phone they should have somebody meet the plane with the message. ACARS is not official notification per the CBA last I checked.
Now, if it’s not already on your schedule you could argue the FDP ended with brake set and a manager on the jetbridge to make notification is not relevant since the brake was set. I’d probably ASAP that one if it were me.

B. Contact you in person or by phone after block in with notification of 10 hours rest before your new next FDP.

C. Keep your FDP running the full 15 minutes post flight; last I checked they stopped at block in. So, once the FDP ends you’d need 10 hours rest.

9 years later and they’re still playing the same games.

 

As far as I can tell, this is not coming from management or CS. But that some pilots are misinterpreting something on their own, hearing FAs talk about their contract and think it s the same as ours, or bringing this from someplace else. I ve never had anyone in the company say I have to wait 15 min. But I do hear it from a lot of pilots.

 

check FM-1. It used to say the duty period ended 15 minutes after block in to perform post flight duties.

that is duty, not FDP. Once the FDP ends you need 10 hours rest.

they may have changed FM-1 and removed it; I don’t have a current revision.

 

That doesn't have anything to do with reserve assigents.

 

If it’s still there in FM-1 it covers all duty periods. You have some new CBA reserve language too. They may be in conflict also.
I’m sure the MEC will have some guidance at some point. They used to publish Q&A type things to cover these types of questions.

 

Slight correction, you need 10 hours from end of duty not FDP.

(Well, you need 10 hours before your next duty period but that 15 minutes is not rest)

 

yep, it’s 10 hours prior to beginning a new FDP.
my bad.