I have a bad feeling a lot of street hires will be screwed. It's really going to depend on AA and aircraft deliveries. If not, I expect their classes to consist of Cadets only....

Well yeah back in your day 30 years ago you could afford stuff with that job. McDonald's paid 10 an hour in 94, which is 21 an hour in today's money. But please keep posting on how getting your 110k a year jet job pushed back 7 months isn't cause for complaining.

Lemme guess, you had to walk to indoc uphill both ways back in the day?

You forgot that uphill walk both ways was also in 2 feet of snow.... The struggle is real.

Once hiring picks back up next year at AA and DL then MQ will have to take more than just cadets and DEC’s.

Don't forget about United, they are already taking a few MQ captains with class dates in October.

Any word on class dates other than the Nov 18th?

Internal rumor says the November 18th class date was offered to the rest of the pilots affected by the cancellation of the May Orientation date, just like others have said up-thread. I am surprised Envoy gave as much notice as they did since I feel like they have a tendency to constantly re-evaluate and not make promises very far ahead. I would think those previously offered a June Orientation are next in line in the spirit of making up for un-fulfilled promises.

I'm not seeing much movement in my corner of Envoy--aside from people upgrading above me from the July awards--and they have continued to ask pilots to take time off without pay. There should have been a vacancy award this week for base transfers and upgrades since the contract requires one 4 times a year and there wasn't. Hopefully a December new hire class date will be announced soon, but I don't think the flood gates are opening just yet. It has only been a week since the November 18th class was announced.

I'm hoping 2025 is a better hiring year for all of us.

Hopefully. I started my transition from Cadet to FO in May (didn't get an orientation date) so hopefully I'm in the next batch of phone calls if they do another class this year

I'm a street hire from the May 9th cancelled class and have not been assigned a new class date yet.
Have cadets from the June/July cancelled classes been assigned a new date?

Anybody hear anything about FO CRBs starting up again? I got the pre offer of employment at the end of July, and I know it's a lot more recent than most folks who've been waiting. I've got a CJO from another regional with a class date early 2025, but I'd REALLY rather fly for MQ.